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mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 36828@debbugs.gnu.org, stepnem@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 26 13:56:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iOKfy-000KJD-Gw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2019 13:56:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39824 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iOKfx-0003Tt-9W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36404) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iOKfr-0003TX-JL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iOKfq-0006Zy-GR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; 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Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from relayout03-redir.e.movistar.es ([86.109.101.203]:62231) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iOKfA-0003KI-49 for 36828@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:55:20 -0400 Original-Received: from sky (238.red-79-144-110.dynamicip.rima-tde.net [79.144.110.238]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: 981711563@telefonica.net) by relayout03.e.movistar.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 470fYX6JzhzMkv4; Sat, 26 Oct 2019 13:55:12 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83v9sbvqhl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:51:50 +0300") X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-TnetOut-Country: IP: 79.144.110.238 | Country: ES X-TnetOut-Information: AntiSPAM and AntiVIRUS on relayout03 X-TnetOut-MsgID: 470fYX6JzhzMkv4.A74EC X-TnetOut-SpamCheck: no es spam, Unknown X-TnetOut-From: ofv@wanadoo.es X-TnetOut-Watermark: 1572695713.6708@15K6fdxz6kpc5dU6a1MBkw X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170193 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I no longer remember the details from what I discovered back there, so > expect some repeated questions, mistakes, and confusion. Apologies in > advance. It's all my fault for delaying this task for a long time. > I note that the directories you show now are different from what you > reported back then: more place for confusion. I made a new build directory for a debug build. The only thing that changes is `debug' instead of `build' on the paths. >> I propose the reverse: unconditionally test for the non-installed NEWS and >> adjust Vdata_directory if it exists. Something like this (untested for >> the installed emacs case): > > I'm not sure I understand the relevance of data-directory to the issue > at hand. data-directory is used for locating the NEWS file and, IIRC, other documentation. > AFAIR you were talking about the Info documentation, No, it was about NEWS. Although making it work for the Info documentation would be nice too (my proposed change does not provide that). > but that is looked up in configure-info-directory; see > Info-default-directory-list. We only use data-directory for that in > the NS builds, which I believe is not your case. It is not, indeed. > If this all is due to the fact I pointed to this code, then either I > was mistaken (sorry!), or there's something I discovered back then, > but forgot in the meantime. > > So I guess we need to back up a notch and see how all this is related > to Info manuals? Or what else am I missing? For the time being, I propose that we concentrate on NEWS, which motivated this bug report. Then we can move on to the Info documentation.