From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25394: bug#25395: 25.1; Emacs/W3 crashes on every url with elisp error (void-variable w3--args) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 14:38:33 +0100 Message-ID: <874kzme6ue.fsf@marxist.se> References: <78e2b7ed-dae2-822e-1c94-4990160e50fe@earthlink.net> <87lftupdbd.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="193076"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 25394@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Steven Litvintchouk , 25395@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 02 14:39:15 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iQtcV-000o4c-Rj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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"M-x w3" has the same error. So I can only >> assume this package has not been tested or used by anyone since it was >> added to elpa.gnu.org. >> So I have to wonder what the value of having it there is. >> >> I suggest you use M-x eww instead, and that if no-one wants to maintain >> w3 it be removed from elpa.gnu.org. > > (This was two years ago.) > > I agree -- when it doesn't even start up with `M-x w3' it seems pretty > useless to have in GNU ELPA. > > How does one remove something from ELPA? Indeed, the development seems to have completely stalled. See also: 1. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/w3-dev/ 2. https://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/w3.git Here's a patch to remove anything that seems related to it from the ELPA repository. Is there anything else that needs doing? Stefan Monnier, do you know the answer to this question? Best regards, Stefan Kangas --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=remove-w3.diff diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore index be5cc5cca..ef445c38f 100644 --- a/.gitignore +++ b/.gitignore @@ -68,7 +68,6 @@ packages/svg/ packages/system-packages/ packages/tramp/ packages/verilog-mode/ -packages/w3/ packages/webfeeder/ packages/wisitoken-grammar-mode/ packages/xelb/ diff --git a/copyright_exceptions b/copyright_exceptions index e618db911..088465728 100644 --- a/copyright_exceptions +++ b/copyright_exceptions @@ -53,4 +53,3 @@ ./uni-confusables/uni-confusables.el ./uni-confusables/uni-confusables.el:;; Copyright (C) 1991-2009, 2010 Unicode, Inc. ./uni-confusables/uni-confusables.el:;; for the copyright and permission notice. -./w3/w3-cus.el: ;; Glossary, Copyright, Chapter, Section, Subsection, Appendix, diff --git a/externals-list b/externals-list index 74e73c190..7e5556435 100644 --- a/externals-list +++ b/externals-list @@ -146,7 +146,6 @@ ("tramp" :external "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/tramp.git/?h=elpa") ;;FIXME:("vlf" :subtree ??) ("verilog-mode" :core "lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el") - ("w3" :external nil) ("wcheck-mode" :subtree "https://github.com/tlikonen/wcheck-mode.git") ("web-server" :subtree "https://github.com/eschulte/emacs-web-server.git") ("webfeeder" :external "https://gitlab.com/ambrevar/emacs-webfeeder.git") --=-=-=--