From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41386: 28.0.50; Gnus nnimap OAuth 2.0 support Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 03:29:37 +0200 Message-ID: <874kq4wav2.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87y2poqehh.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1143"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Thomas Fitzsimmons , stefan@marxist.se, 41386@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 03:30:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy9b-0000AS-Az for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 03:30:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy9Z-0001Sg-R3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 21:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55378) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy9S-0001SV-Rf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 21:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48058) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy9S-0005fq-I0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 21:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy9S-000128-DM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 21:30:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 01:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41386 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41386-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41386.15951221923913 (code B ref 41386); Sun, 19 Jul 2020 01:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 01:29:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59595 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy9I-000112-Dp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 21:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55510) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy9G-00010a-Az for 41386@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 21:29:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2QPwprEhwzJkEyoHDaqp3pIv31mNvYb8hfyX/Iwn3m0=; b=gXzruwcYNFz8UZ0//ND3pdvtm2 5IV4a+iFUrT1MN7doNZUSfQljUa/DdjZT2HeqiTicjSPOy1y4Nx2p7gHnqPR2dPKRNaUI1lBCHomp UMPqR1Ewn+xBh5YOL5jdvmVbaV8bWij1zm3TYrjyidKZcB9rz5gFPcUZHVsXGolHNPns=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jwy93-0007YK-T2; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 03:29:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 20 May 2020 23:45:32 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:183189 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > It seems to me that the requirement for a secret key in a user program > is fundamentally incompatible with free software. A free system > cannot keep secrets from the user. However, if Google is willing to > leave a space to use free clients, something could be worked out. At present, there doesn't seem to be any way to follow Google's explicit instructions as to how OAuth 2.0 support should be done in free software -- even if they tacitly are saying through unofficial channels "but we don't really mean it" by saying that Thunderbird is still working. So I'm closing this bug report, as this isn't something that can be fixed here, but it something the FSF will have to negotiate with Google. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no