From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44180: 28.0.50; Emacs frames won't redisplay unless resized Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:01:20 -0700 Message-ID: <874kmipa5r.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87wnzgkdsj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <83k0vgiyub.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0vgkbgq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <83eeloivgc.fsf@gnu.org> <87lffw1wjv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <7f32498b-1293-f1ee-5636-8ddd5bbff6c1@gmx.at> <87h7qjpeam.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <831rhmgx6x.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37522"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 44180@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 25 17:04:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kWiVF-0009ep-Hs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 17:04:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWiVE-0007VK-JH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWiT6-0004tb-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWiT4-0007CZ-Fv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWiT4-0003cf-Dk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44180.160364169113881 (code B ref 44180); Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2020 16:01:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37408 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWiSZ-0003bp-6W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:01:31 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:36240 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kWiSX-0003bZ-0n for 44180@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:01:29 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61F91FA0B0; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:01:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1603641682; bh=nhEJC7qHeCEBHgzYLBrXW5M16+iqO29VV7wGTR5Fxf8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=dH1X05xUkD5wUSSvnsdE/TkQLELjd+jBKKkuYxz+krpAasPCyeOfT5b0SNuo9vcJQ q85Aq21ddpjSYRJ+YyLEgGAYI5vFvo9T4E+B8vzcBol8HWGyc+Z83eP1MfW8D631B7 S5ZJ4+185rUp21aP2kqvN2vqx6Rqg/8TFv5NZFyc= In-Reply-To: <831rhmgx6x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Oct 2020 17:08:38 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:191508 Archived-At: On 10/25/20 17:08 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Eric Abrahamsen >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44180@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 13:19:45 -0700 >> >> Sorry if this wasn't clear. The window manager can display multiple >> windows (our frames) tiled into some sort of grid, in which case >> everything behaves correctly, or it can allow one of the windows to take >> up the full workspace, and other windows are only visible as a sort of >> window title bar, either tabbed along the top, or stacked along the top. >> I'm attaching a screenshot, that's stacked. > > Since the other frames are not really visible, treating them as > iconified makes some sense. But then I don't understand your original > report: you said these frames are not updated, but since they are > obscured, what does "updated" mean for them? > > IOW, I'm now confused regarding the original report of the problem you > have. I guess we need to start from the beginning now, so I'm asking > you to describe in more detail what doesn't work in this situation. The problem is that switching focus between windows (frames) does not update which window is "live". The most-recently created, or most-recently resized, window is always the live one. If I switch focus to one of the other frames, it doesn't update, and I need to move it around somehow in order to make it live. Then the other frames go dead. Before the breakage, it's possible that the non-visible frames were not updated while they remained invisible, and I simply never knew because I couldn't see them. Now they stay un-updated until I manipulate the size of the window somehow.