From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44983: Truncate long lines of grep output Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 22:17:23 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <874kkpcvfw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87h7p0f611.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6uqafmk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87zh2q61n6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <3620abd0-ce79-cc9d-3fb2-255e91f13da1@yandex.ru> <87mtyo3x1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <857088a6-fe90-d989-9115-2c159b2a02e6@yandex.ru> <87lfe6x1uf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87czzi2ju2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87bley7o4a.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <838sa1eo5u.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8283"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 44983@debbugs.gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 13 21:44:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1koYE2-00025V-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:44:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35254 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koYE1-0008LU-9A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:44:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45088) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koYDr-0008Kb-4O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:44:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koYDq-0004te-TZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koYDq-0004v8-Ri for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:44:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 20:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44983.160789219618683 (code B ref 44983); Sun, 13 Dec 2020 20:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2020 20:43:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koYD6-0004rH-2z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:43:16 -0500 Original-Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:64965) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koYD5-0004qj-DG for 44983@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:43:15 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.99.98 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-99-98.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.99.98]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E290E40002; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 20:43:07 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <838sa1eo5u.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 13 Dec 2020 17:11:41 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:196011 Archived-At: >> > In my opinion I believe that majority of users who ever clicked >> > "Search Files (grep)" gave up after few attempts. >> >> Indeed, "Search for files (grep)" menu option is not user friendly. > > In what way is it not user-friendly? It just invokes "M-x grep". It's not friendly for users who don't know syntax of grep command line. OTOH, "Recursive grep" (rgrep) is easier to use, but its menu item text is not clear to users who don't know what is grep. Maybe a better title for 'rgrep' would be "Search text in files"?