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[83.132.177.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r25sm10632551wra.76.2021.09.25.02.02.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 25 Sep 2021 02:02:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 25 Sep 2021 01:13:45 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215428 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > I would just say "some Lisps, such as Common Lisp". Since lisp-mode doesn't work for any Lisp other than Common Lisp, that would be misleading. People'll use it for their XYZ Lisp flavor, and it'll break. > If this mode is not particularly appropriate for some dialects, maybe > say why "Because it's only appropriate for Common Lisp." Good enough? > , or call out those dialects. You realize there's a very large number of those, right? When you write an email, you don't sign it "Not Jo=C3=A3o, not Lars, not any of the Stefans". You sign it: "Drew". Because it's easier. > If, as has been claimed, the change in language is > to avoid misunderstanding and misleading, then do > that, really. Don't wave hands or beat around the > bush. Be concrete and helpful. Who's beating around the bush? I only see one person writing paragraph-fulls of objections to a plain, simple and obvious a 2 line-patch. Jo=C3=A3o