From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50881: C-h C-s leads to empty " *Metahelp*" buffer Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:20:10 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <874ka3dwgn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87y27fc31m.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pmsriopv.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee97gwfr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83wnmzgtf2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 50881@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 29 21:22:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVf9j-0005IS-1O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 21:22:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52080 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVf9h-0000Uo-LP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:22:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVf9W-0000UJ-IB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:22:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVf9W-0003cD-Ac for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVf9W-0004Pj-75 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 19:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50881 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50881-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50881.163294326816896 (code B ref 50881); Wed, 29 Sep 2021 19:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50881) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2021 19:21:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50305 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVf8d-0004OS-Nh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:21:07 -0400 Original-Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:52093) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVf8Y-0004NX-8e for 50881@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:21:06 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCBC5240006; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 19:20:53 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83wnmzgtf2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 29 Sep 2021 20:53:21 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215910 Archived-At: > That's the problem with thinking your personal preferences are > definitely good for everyone else. They aren't. This is not a personal preference. I looked through the eyes of a beginner who types 'C-h C-h' to get help, and the first thing the user sees is that parens are highlighted on the first line: (Type or to scroll, C-s to search, or q to exit.) This is what we trying to tell the user with this information: Look, it's very important that the first paren on the first line matches its closing paren, so we highlighted these parens for you.