From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49592: 28.0.50; lisp-current-defun-name and non-standard defuns Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2022 14:15:35 +0200 Message-ID: <874jyp7el4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <878s279dfi.fsf@web.de> <87edxwezs5.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnbnigm4.fsf@web.de> <87fsiac38p.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtci1az5.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12712"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 49592@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 06 14:16:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIiy-00036j-Oe for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 14:16:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIix-0006UV-83 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:16:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIip-0006U7-4r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIio-0006JK-S8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIio-0008VG-Df for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2022 12:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 49592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49592.165978814632143 (code B ref 49592); Sat, 06 Aug 2022 12:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2022 12:15:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32952 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIiY-0008Lm-91 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:46422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIiX-000855-3Z for 49592@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 08:15:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=f4ol03L63vhEF9TZ4bX4QfD8ERPcIm5VpqAfp+sc3WY=; b=FlgnJQMSIbBjFdzQQ098jqILEv 5ohO8AZgEEiCm4Kr/Eo4ik1pHiMd+j/XqzK+LXELPjdmCboOjGigAuscwodZ9cWb0r4mUZiD5XwyM wZS1khhfTZa/jNW2JptNByd7DTHze0le/aW3UpPm6LySWAYRft7NNT4obIwsuJyGLJ9k=; Original-Received: from 2.151.51.97.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.151.51.97] helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oKIiO-0003gT-SH; Sat, 06 Aug 2022 14:15:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mtci1az5.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sat, 06 Aug 2022 02:17:50 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:238975 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Makes sense - but I don't know if it's a big win and Edebug specs help > out in enough cases (lots of macros don't have one, even in Emacs > itself, e.g. `defvar-keymap'). I think we should consider those cases to be bugs and fix them. > Anyway, it wouldn't harm and motivate people even more to write Edebug > specs. Yes, that'd be a nice side effect. > Or do you intent to give up the heuristic of using the first > argument completely? I don't think that would be a good idea. No, if there's no (usable) edebug spec, we should fall back to that heuristic, I think.