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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1a5fa7d69a4bc02ad384968ace99b009; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 00:43:19 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83o7rexe2n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2023 22:03:12 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20982 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252550 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Daniel Mart=C3=ADn >> Cc: Eric Gillespie , 60559@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 20:40:24 +0100 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> > >> > This is not a bug. Emacs 29 comes with major modes for TOML files and >> > for Dockerfiles, and those new major modes require that you build >> > Emacs with the tree-sitter library (and install the corresponding >> > parser grammar libraries). If you don't want to do that, you can >> > instead customize auto-mode-alist to make Emacs use Fundamental mode >> > (or any other mode you like) for these two file types. >>=20 >> Isn't this another manifestation of what's being discussed in bug#60511? >> I also think that treesit-ready-p should not emit a warning by default, >> it's too noisy and confusing for people that don't know about >> Tree-sitter and consequently use a build of Emacs 29 without Tree-sitter >> enabled. > > That is one use case. The other, no less important one, is when the > user thinks his/her Emacs is built with tree-sitter and has the > relevant stuff installed, whereas the reality is different. Silently > doing nothing in that case is hardly TRT. > > So if we want to solve this, we need to find a solution that fits both > of these use cases. > >> Also, it's strange that, even if Tree-sitter is not configured at all, a >> major mode whose description mentions Tree-sitter is apparently loaded. > > I don't find it strange at all. Slightly unrelated to this bug. I think we will have to find a way to bundle certain tree-sitter grammars with Emacs. On Android, system policy prohibits programs from loading dynamic libraries that are not installed by the system in a read only location upon installation of the application package itself, so asking users to build those grammars will not work at all. Android users typically have no C compiler installed either. Thanks.