From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:14:19 +0000 Message-ID: <874jrjkyyc.fsf@localhost> References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn1afay.fsf@localhost> <87r0v17iul.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zg9peijp.fsf@localhost> <87mt5p7etx.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wn4tedtx.fsf@localhost> <87a61p7bpu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r0v1e9kg.fsf@localhost> <871qn16j3i.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn0e67a.fsf@localhost> <87h6vw5qpw.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y1p8cqqs.fsf@localhost> <87cz6k5njc.fsf@yahoo.com> <87v8k33rnb.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40029"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 18 12:14:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pTLAg-000AAZ-Ph for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 12:14:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTLAO-0004GI-4t; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 06:14:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTLAK-0004Fl-Sj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 06:14:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTLAJ-0002Eg-2c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 06:14:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTLAI-0000F5-DT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 06:14:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.1676718834909 (code B ref 61325); Sat, 18 Feb 2023 11:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2023 11:13:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTLA9-0000Eb-R2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 06:13:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:37131) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTLA8-0000EL-0Q for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 06:13:52 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36FCD2404AA for <61325@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 12:13:43 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1676718826; bh=gt1JG/joxVPXsz75659N/VJTADkHBKe5jNlrWWsu+Ao=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=RjWnZQW17qK1j72Uyg+m7tL+gv5Zzft2qU3TW0GWEHaBQ9IjGvlI/U6sMumAjyj3Z JEz7cffDh8WNG+Vs4TUgt5Ft4V9lj2clncklKm87Mj/Ve0L/brfWoQjxHSlO6etURA KY19jzv36Bp/DOdyuCcH636ovWLzl90c8xqbtB5Blx2Sq8S9jqKKa/T/uPEU5x3/EW dLCdd0YHg+zkHiV0wXjltWh/OoihuoiTHgSYdRHXYlaKC/uar3sbMEKr1ACNHduzKS gexUTY3Jr5TC76NnEXmykhJp5ICOLLb5xSJGIRafVS1ll+NTF7PpGGdQtgFbRNhSaN GrGztXwkoAw1A== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4PJmJk69gMz6tnw; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 12:13:42 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255953 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > That may be a key to making progress. If some readers can't understand > the technical information, that is indisputably a problem. The question > is how to fix it. > > Can you show is concretel what technical information is hard to understand > for those who don't get the joke? I have never used GNUS. The paragraph in question is 8 Scoring =20=20=20=20 Other people use =E2=80=9Ckill files=E2=80=9D, but we here at Gnus Towe= rs like scoring better than killing, so we=E2=80=99d rather switch than fight. They do something completely different as well, so sit up straight and pay attention! The technical information is that unlike the concept of "killing" [*] that may be familiar to Usenet software users, Gnus introduces the idea of "scoring" [**]. Scoring is a more powerful (and also faster [***] compared to killing. Gnus recommends using scoring over killing. I had to read forward, backward, and specifically search for keywords to understand the above. [*] "killing" in Gnus is, AFAIU, hiding (not deleting) threads that match some criteria. [**] First mentioned in 3.7 Group Score, but actually more general (does not only apply to Groups). Score is a number assigned to Gnus threads according to a number of criteria - each criteria (like matching some words in subject/body) will increase/decrease the total score. Gnus can then sort threads according to their score and even hide threads with score below certain threshold. [***] 8.13 Kill Files In short, kill processing is a lot slower (and I do mean _a lot_) than score processing, so it might be a good idea to rewrite your kill files into score files. --=20 Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at