From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bind me a/k/a leadership in the key binding dept. Date: 06 Jul 2002 15:37:48 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <873cux8fxv.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> References: <87y9cuzgzt.fsf@jidanni.org> <20020702103800.GA179@xyz> <87sn311iqf.fsf@jidanni.org> <20020703121653.GA179@xyz> <200207041824.g64IOXw06480@aztec.santafe.edu> <20020704200235.GA8913@xyz> <200207052205.g65M5tS08539@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026132797 5410 127.0.0.1 (8 Jul 2002 12:53:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 12:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17RY0y-0001P9-00 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 14:53:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17RY1d-0004hi-00; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 08:53:57 -0400 Original-Received: from delysid.gnu.org ([158.121.106.20]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17RXMJ-0005aj-00; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 08:11:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ashd1-1.relay.mail.uu.net ([199.171.54.245]) by delysid.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 17Qm5J-0001ir-00 for ; Sat, 06 Jul 2002 05:42:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de by mr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: mail.fu-berlin.de [160.45.11.165]) id QQmwhy22520 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:42:15 GMT Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:42:15 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:42:15 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 61-227-44-184.hinet-ip.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 26 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-44-184.hinet-ip.hinet.net (61.227.44.184) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1025948534 20228337 61.227.44.184 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: 127.0.0.1!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:2515 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:2515 RMS> Default key bindings and other defaults are very important issues. RMS> What makes Emacs powerful is the design that enables users to change RMS> many things in a very general way. However, what makes Emacs RMS> convenient is the fact that we have configured a lot of convenient RMS> things in advance. Hmm, OK, I guess. P.S. sounds like the Master Chinghai ;-) Imagine a world where even the most basic keys C-a C-b ... were left to the users to bind themselves... bad. Imagine a world where even the most arcane optional, (however interactive, of course) commands all had bindings right out of the factory. Not so bad unless the user is in the habit of random typing. Anyways, maybe consider "binding recommendation reservation lists", to avoid Jimmy binding to A what Jonnny binds to B causing Jimmy to have difficulty at the demo when handed Jonnny's terminal. Anyways, say, you provide functions with standard names, no? You don't just do "lambda" and let the masses "chose their favorite name as the flower blows", no? Well, how about the same leadership in the key binding dept. True, a good key binding requires thought and feedback, but anyways, think about it. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780