input when running in a UTF-8 locale

input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Trond Eivind Glomsrod]

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In GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2002-08-06 on stripples.devel.redhat.com
configured using `configure  --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --target=i386-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix= --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/usr/com --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-gcc --with-pop --with-sound'
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  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

When running emacs in a utf-8 locale (en_US.UTF-8) and using an international
keyboard layout or input method (setxkbmap us_intl  or just use the compose key),
entering a non 7-bit characters doesn't work - you'll get the raw UTF-8 sequence 
inserted into the buffer as emacs doesn't recognize it.



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Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Eli Zaretskii]

On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Trond Eivind Glomsrod wrote:

> When running emacs in a utf-8 locale (en_US.UTF-8) and using an international
> keyboard layout or input method (setxkbmap us_intl  or just use the compose key),
> entering a non 7-bit characters doesn't work - you'll get the raw UTF-8 sequence 
> inserted into the buffer as emacs doesn't recognize it.

Does it help to read the entry in etc/PROBLEMS whose header line says 
"Problems when using Emacs with UTF-8 locales"?

Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Trond Eivind Glomsrød]

eliz@is.elta.co.il (Eli Zaretskii) writes:

> On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Trond Eivind Glomsrod wrote:
> 
> > When running emacs in a utf-8 locale (en_US.UTF-8) and using an international
> > keyboard layout or input method (setxkbmap us_intl  or just use the compose key),
> > entering a non 7-bit characters doesn't work - you'll get the raw UTF-8 sequence 
> > inserted into the buffer as emacs doesn't recognize it.
> 
> Does it help to read the entry in etc/PROBLEMS whose header line says 
> "Problems when using Emacs with UTF-8 locales"?

Yes, that helped. Added that to our default init files, execution
conditional on LANG ending in "UTF-8" - using such a locale is the
default for most languages in the current beta of RHL.

-- 
Trond Eivind Glomsrød
Red Hat, Inc.

Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Alexander Pohoyda]

eliz@is.elta.co.il (Eli Zaretskii) writes:

> On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Trond Eivind Glomsrod wrote:
> 
> > When running emacs in a utf-8 locale (en_US.UTF-8) and using an
> > international keyboard layout or input method (setxkbmap us_intl
> > or just use the compose key), entering a non 7-bit characters
> > doesn't work - you'll get the raw UTF-8 sequence inserted into the
> > buffer as emacs doesn't recognize it.
> 
> Does it help to read the entry in etc/PROBLEMS whose header line says 
> "Problems when using Emacs with UTF-8 locales"?

This does not help in my case. I can view UTF-8 encoded text, can
input localized text using LEIM, but cannot input any symbol using
XFree86's XKB. Looks like Emacs ignores my keystrokes.
I can, however, input localized text using XKB in Mozilla 1.0

I have:
export LANG="C"
export LC_CTYPE="en_GB.UTF-8"
set in my ~/.profile file.


GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i386--freebsd, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002

FreeBSD oak.pohoyda.family 4.5-RC3 FreeBSD 4.5-RC3 #18: Mon Sep 30
11:54:15 CEST 2002 

What could be the problem?


-- 
Alexander Pohoyda

Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <200212220854.gBM8siVW000782@oak.pohoyda.family>, Alexander Pohoyda <alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net> writes:
> This does not help in my case. I can view UTF-8 encoded text, can
> input localized text using LEIM, but cannot input any symbol using
> XFree86's XKB. Looks like Emacs ignores my keystrokes.
> I can, however, input localized text using XKB in Mozilla 1.0

Have you tried the latest CVS code?  In that version, Dave
has implemented the hash table x-keysym-table.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Alexander Pohoyda]

> > This does not help in my case. I can view UTF-8 encoded text, can
> > input localized text using LEIM, but cannot input any symbol using
> > XFree86's XKB. Looks like Emacs ignores my keystrokes.
> > I can, however, input localized text using XKB in Mozilla 1.0
> 
> Have you tried the latest CVS code?  In that version, Dave
> has implemented the hash table x-keysym-table.

No, I have not yet. Do you mean latest Emacs or Leim code here?


-- 
Alexander Pohoyda
<alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net>

Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <200212272327.gBRNRJZp001282@oak.pohoyda.family>, Alexander Pohoyda <alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net> writes:
>>  > This does not help in my case. I can view UTF-8 encoded text, can
>>  > input localized text using LEIM, but cannot input any symbol using
>>  > XFree86's XKB. Looks like Emacs ignores my keystrokes.
>>  > I can, however, input localized text using XKB in Mozilla 1.0
>>  
>>  Have you tried the latest CVS code?  In that version, Dave
>>  has implemented the hash table x-keysym-table.

> No, I have not yet. Do you mean latest Emacs or Leim code here?

I mean the latest Emacs.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Alexander Pohoyda]

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> >>  > This does not help in my case. I can view UTF-8 encoded text, can
> >>  > input localized text using LEIM, but cannot input any symbol using
> >>  > XFree86's XKB. Looks like Emacs ignores my keystrokes.
> >>  > I can, however, input localized text using XKB in Mozilla 1.0
> >>  
> >>  Have you tried the latest CVS code?  In that version, Dave
> >>  has implemented the hash table x-keysym-table.

Yes, it works now. Just works.

GNU Emacs 21.3.50.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.5, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2002-12-30 on oak.pohoyda.family

Thank you very much!


-- 
Alexander Pohoyda

Re: input when running in a UTF-8 locale

[Dave Love]

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> In article <200212220854.gBM8siVW000782@oak.pohoyda.family>, Alexander Pohoyda <alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net> writes:
> > This does not help in my case. I can view UTF-8 encoded text, can
> > input localized text using LEIM, but cannot input any symbol using
> > XFree86's XKB. Looks like Emacs ignores my keystrokes.
> > I can, however, input localized text using XKB in Mozilla 1.0
> 
> Have you tried the latest CVS code?  In that version, Dave
> has implemented the hash table x-keysym-table.

I don't know exactly what the problem is, but in Emacs 21.2 it
probably helps to use `set-keyboard-coding-system' with `utf-8'.  That
works around a bug decoding X input (fixed for 21.3) without having to
use development source.

[The x-keysym-table feature was meant for a different circumstance,
and by design may insert characters that the buffer's coding system
can't encode.]