From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:06:45 +0100 Message-ID: <8739cuhohm.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20191.12232.556454.551166@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20191.48632.665251.448872@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20191.55423.572257.75919@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <877h27gxh2.fsf@gmail.com> <20193.1889.937384.407090@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323371304 3731 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2011 19:08:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2975@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Berry To: "Roland Winkler" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 20:08:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjKK-00079W-8E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:08:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36716 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjKJ-0006Fs-MU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:08:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40305) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjKG-0006Fm-Va for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:08:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjKF-00005l-SL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:08:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjKF-00005M-O8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:08:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjL4-0005t3-29 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2975 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2975-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2975.132337133622618 (code B ref 2975); Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2975) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2011 19:08:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjKy-0005sk-9c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYjKv-0005sd-Ji for 2975@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:08:54 -0500 Original-Received: by wgbdq10 with SMTP id dq10so4096548wgb.15 for <2975@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:08:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xZ21hFQXyqb62QeMfMwWoRf15h272WDgVT4N3fB0oZg=; b=nSNlp49xQNG8i5DabYMSHHdqvGgGJSwzIVNGsayhu2xkQ0WCtKykYLcbae5QED4Tvt IBx6YrkIx3cKMBR0DGN04s3TGu01ABEt9DXUzrdKnDI3b3LYSKE5fIXLCSpQClx02k7F IbEjnAa+FFTWbZnE8JkTDlQxQCoGRaHUMf8Ds= Original-Received: by 10.216.136.168 with SMTP id w40mr38881wei.27.1323371208243; Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:06:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (176.119.broadband10.iol.cz. [90.177.119.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3sm9881345wiy.14.2011.12.08.11.06.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:06:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20193.1889.937384.407090@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:52:17 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:09:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54819 Archived-At: On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:52:17 +0100 Roland Winkler wrote: > On Thu Dec 8 2011 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> The simplest fix would be to remove the updating of the @node lines. >> Would anyone object? Karl? > > A TeXnical question: what about using TeX to generate the output?=20 > To the best of my knowledge makinfo doesn't care about @node lines > being up to date or not, it can fix them itself. Does the same hold > for TeX? Unless I'm missing something, you already got an answer to this question in Eli's first reply in this thread: --- [Roland] > Of course, I believe that makeinfo can add the info about the node > pointers. But what about output formats not supported by makeinfo? > I believe that something like TeX needs them. [Eli] TeX doesn't need them. These pointers are there to allow traversing the on-line manual, and are not needed for non on-line versions. --- (Personally I found Eli's explanation confusing -- what does "on-line" mean here? If it means HTML, makeinfo does support HTML output -- does it mean it doesn't cope with missing node pointers in the HTML case? If it means the standard Info manuals, then that's the principal format supported, isn't it...) --=20 =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n