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From: oitofelix@gmail.com (Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro)
To: 10380@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10380: 23.2; Emacs Manual; Inverted meaning of `C-n' and `C-p' in a "respectively" scope; second sentence, first paragraph, section 7.2
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:06:32 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8739c5iv1j.fsf@felix-laptop.gnung> (raw)

There is a bug in Emacs Manual bundled with GNU Emacs 23.2.  In the
second sentence, first paragraph, section 7.2 (entitled "Changing the
Location of Point").  It is an error with the functions that point
motion keys deserve.  On "respectively" scope, keys `C-n' and `C-p' are
with inverted meaning.

The original text is:

"The keyboard commands `C-f', `C-b', `C-n', and `C-p'
move point to the right, left, up and down respectively."

But the right would be:

"The keyboard commands `C-f', `C-b', `C-n', and `C-p'
move point to the right, left, down and up respectively."

The next sentence corroborate it:

"These are equivalent to the commands `<right>', `<left>', `<down>', and `<up>',
entered using the "arrow keys" present on many keyboards."

------


In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
 of 2010-12-11 on raven, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000
configured using `configure  '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/leim' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: pt_BR.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Info

Minor modes in effect:
  server-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  display-battery-mode: t
  desktop-save-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <left> 
<right> <return> C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v M-v 
M-v M-v M-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v M-v M-v 
M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v C-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-< 
C-s p a s s w o r d C-s C-s <return> M-{ M-{ M-} M-{ 
M-} M-} M-} M-{ M-{ M-} M-} M-{ M-{ M-} M-{ M-{ M-{ 
M-} M-{ M-{ M-{ M-{ M-{ M-{ M-{ M-{ M-{ M-} M-{ C-s 
1 8 9 0 8 2 <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> C-g <S-down> C-v M-v C-v M-v 
<S-up> C-p C-n C-n C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p 
C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-n C-p C-n 
C-M-v C-x 1 C-x b C-g C-x 4 b * i n <tab> * <return> 
C-a C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-b C-b C-b 
C-b C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p <S-up> C-x k <return> 
y e s <return> C-x 0 C-f C-f C-f C-b C-b C-n C-n C-p 
C-p C-p M-x <up> <up> C-g M-x <up> <return>

Recent messages:
Checking 87 files in /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/calc...
Checking 39 files in /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/obsolete...
Ignoring redundant directory /usr/share/emacs/23.2/leim
Checking for load-path shadows...done
Auto-saving...
call-interactively: End of buffer
call-interactively: Beginning of buffer
Mark set
Mark saved where search started
Quit [2 times]
Quit

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-- 
Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix)

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2011-12-27 21:06 Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro [this message]
2011-12-31 11:34 ` bug#10380: 23.2; Emacs Manual; Inverted meaning of `C-n' and `C-p' in a "respectively" scope; second sentence, first paragraph, section 7.2 Eli Zaretskii

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