From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20968: 25.0.50; Be able to specify the output directory for `byte-compile-file' Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 20:38:40 +1000 Message-ID: <873814ky1b.fsf@gmail.com> References: <23829743-922e-4304-8ab3-b762b8193860@default> <74y4iytdjg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83pp49zb03.fsf@gnu.org> <83egkpyvvd.fsf@gnu.org> <83si94xrcn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436006424 4409 80.91.229.3 (4 Jul 2015 10:40:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 10:40:24 +0000 (UTC) To: 20968@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 04 12:40:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKrk-0001zv-Ox for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 12:40:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43813 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKrk-0002cR-2O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:40:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40339) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKrf-0002Zt-UF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKrc-0002hc-MH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37841) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKrc-0002gg-IN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKrb-0005ja-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:40:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alexis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 10:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20968 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143600634421918 (code B ref -1); Sat, 04 Jul 2015 10:40:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2015 10:39:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39275 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKqd-0005hR-NN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKqa-0005gu-Dc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKqU-0001WS-C8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:38:55 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKqU-0001WK-92 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKqT-0002VL-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKqP-0001UQ-WE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::230]:35631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBKqP-0001Td-ON for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: by pdbci14 with SMTP id ci14so76843126pdb.2 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 03:38:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=zxJ81KaIBoV3q9305TTOmfj/9kwcw7JbXZpGs+r7B1s=; b=eci1w/R1uYY/0XgAXNT6bQXwY5yQ86gJMv2Lx62dgpKy3pJ7ubqcPn165Y+VrEfC0O ujOaJtoJvy+OW1+1qcwVWjWWrJEw2IIp/ebmmk9B5HapaJkQ4782fW4tS/pHtP00QY2c xoaO34ZYjSdcD5GCJSCFDPw5jqC8lnL8rCp7I6DM8vRf+xZTBl1nsJMQ1Xr00dDEp+CU RWFg9nW0Hpb9OTRDJ/IuzAYwaaOjIb4HoqaxOEsKJeTPhdS0ZIOswWApW06Uyjle+vYM L+VWa79e2v4/s1Ut5bIRBNM3LMrTXI5IJDRtGN8AnyNg18GZQmGLvy6qmfpv37aqDHdb BHsg== X-Received: by 10.70.41.78 with SMTP id d14mr86700905pdl.35.1436006327303; Sat, 04 Jul 2015 03:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ppp118-209-36-169.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net. [118.209.36.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c16sm11863669pdl.61.2015.07.04.03.38.44 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Jul 2015 03:38:46 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <83si94xrcn.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104678 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > What's more, I don't understand why people use those places. > The Emacs forums are quite friendly, so there should be no > reason for them to avoid us. Sadly, it seems increasing numbers of people are finding that, compared to Web-based fora, email and mailing lists are too much hassle / too complicated / too annoying / etc. Some feel that even low-traffic lists (say, a few emails per day) are "too much email", and filtering is either too complicated for them to set up, or simply not available. i also guess that Web fora might tend to rank higher in search engine results than mailing lists; if so, that might result in more people signing up for the former than the latter.[1] Having said that, there are things like the rust-dev mailing being abandoned in favour of a Web forum, on the basis that the mailing list was "not scalable". i'm not sure how the existence of, say, the LKML fits in with that .... For me, it's easier to follow multiple communities via the 'push' mechanism of email than the 'pull' mechanism of Web fora; a number of Web fora have poor or non-existent email notifications, so i have to rely on a browser extension to regularly check a given Web-based discussion for any new or changed content. The increased inconvenience means i follow fewer communities nowadays than i used to. But my guess is that Web fora are only going to increase in importance, and that people will increasingly expect that 'official' support will be provided via the Web. Alexis. [1] i continue to regularly have bad experiences with the "search our archives" functionality of mailing lists. i've recently been unable to find an email on a mailing list - i can't remember which one - which i /knew/ was there, but wasn't discoverable via Google or the mailing list search functionality. In the end i resorted to trawling through the archives manually, and thus found the email i was after.