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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x189-v6sm5100235ite.2.2018.05.15.17.51.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 15 May 2018 17:51:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83zi10kg9q.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 15 May 2018 19:58:09 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:146210 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 15:27:42 +0200 >> Cc: 31457@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Cool. Do we want to remove sslv3 support from tls.el as well, or are >> we not making any more changes to it now? > > I see no need to remove anything from a package that becomes obsolete. The sslv3 "support" is just the "gnutls-cli --x509cafile %t -p %p %h --protocols ssl3" entry in the default value for tls-program, right? I think removing it wouldn't really be removing the feature as such, just making the default "safer". People who know what they are doing can still customize with the appropriate value to get sslv3 if they want. Hmm, and it looks like my version of gnutls-cli (3.5.8) doesn't even support the --protocols switch anyway. "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: >> >> +** The tls.el and starttls.el libraries are now marked obsolete. >> +Use of builtin of function based on libgnutls is recommended instead. > ^^^^ > > Typo? Oops. Not sure what I was actually aiming for there. I rewrote like this: ** The tls.el and starttls.el libraries are now marked obsolete. Use of builtin libgnutls based functionality (described in the Emacs GnuTLS manual) is recommended instead.