From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gustavo Barros Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21099: 24.3; bibtex-clean-entry and date fields in biblatex Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 18:02:45 -0300 Message-ID: <8736ik61l6.fsf@gmail.com> References: <871ry4eit2.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="4810"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: Brian Zbriger , 21099@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 01 23:03:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htIEH-000190-37 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 23:03:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59208 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htIEG-0002K9-3S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:03:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53275) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htIE3-0002Jr-RW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htIE2-0005w9-Fa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htIE2-0005vc-8a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htIE2-0007IN-3i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gustavo Barros Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21099 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21099-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21099.156469337928035 (code B ref 21099); Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21099) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2019 21:02:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55500 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htIDy-0007I6-H1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qt1-f174.google.com ([209.85.160.174]:36587) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htIDw-0007Hr-9k for 21099@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:02:56 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qt1-f174.google.com with SMTP id z4so71826248qtc.3 for <21099@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:02:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y6kZuK+PGFe9Nz9qm3QDwRX/AW3U1AgYg2ajaJbbbWc=; b=i3nSO1dEzXc0U+UYxTTee9ftTos3AtXctMUE2iyxUv2Z8mpqtjpps0TuG2FW4Q+ocS +uWXWIRO7QytLsIWR6NwgWpq63MQulVLKa/K7EDpWSWXxIcGG1XwCsu1CQjD9y0YWpjm xHpsuLq4LRo4pBTzy5kxGVc/c2qVCbWVdlhJiswNrQw1jWZoXEJCdaiexBxaBJfRis2E IwMJevCNtdrW9fS40OEdexQJlybWkme4yvpVy3zpYxhDAJ9U/dXp5NIRYtQaavMY6aJT VNx3uexQ0MhKUGL5FCZXhREqhAASoJKrBKnPkfivvFQOnXP4VJ6cUewrdA07jzMnSn7C shaw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y6kZuK+PGFe9Nz9qm3QDwRX/AW3U1AgYg2ajaJbbbWc=; b=dFU6kWDSSJgphm75n9QnjPmO+OtRNHYhnqeV+S/mPUMm0CSI6l4ISpXMXMZb8c14XE hGWoXRc/1fm77dsV+qwQgmLYXbHPSplAF1+YPnb8qnqdV9o9QC4sxM+UnuArBG4qOM1k lpjSCarDgrf5XUqtz7V4y++k/PA4u/dHuKKLaxQ1FekFrBX/pdEaGWZ3z+6HdplmOqOk qMwhxDnP1aBJ6U6/P3q4gdfAzZ4dVTHW/75mDmGziKGCeJwHcv2a9NuywGfDf/s3CdP0 JaYJoz6oit5t7IEXE9INhsCr+HwSU8BCirS28kXfIkU8cZkXJxDUPZe8+jY+hGWdXOem aJFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVyemLsKinDa3J+Z75dpFcm2+dm3kEJFc1PFM7mLlTzgOcFTXAs bMb4nT+I8lI6wdhb5Mz1wscgnXvHpp4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzHsCIK/R4LF7bulN0NUTca14lCFQgLWWxEsm7a1j7vJtr5R92pYtwj7AegP/ngqTG7tYP10A== X-Received: by 2002:aed:22af:: with SMTP id p44mr94263245qtc.348.1564693370542; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from gusbrs-laptop (ip-95-2-52-196.nyc.us.northamericancoax.com. [196.52.2.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w51sm38151045qth.18.2019.08.01.14.02.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:02:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871ry4eit2.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 01 Aug 2019 22:23:37 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164281 Archived-At: Hi Lars, On Thu, Aug 01 2019, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Brian Zbriger writes: > >> `bibtex-clean-entry` removes curly braces from date fields, even if >> `bibtex-dialect` is set to `biblatex`. I have not been able to find >> documentation on this issue, but in my experience using latexmk and >> biber, this makes the entry invalid. I have had to re-add the curly brac= es >> to get my .bib files working again. >> >> If I am correct in thinking that dates with curly braces are generally >> compatible with biblatex, they should be left alone. Otherwise there >> should be an option to have them left alone. > > (I'm going through old bug reports that have unfortunately not gotten > any responses.) > > If this bug is still present, could you post a test case? I can add two things about this. First, that I=E2=80=99ve been using bibtex-mode for some time, with `(bibtex-dialect (quote biblatex))` and, with proper configuration of `bibtex-entry-format`, namely the exclusion of value `numerical-fields` which is added by default, I get braces in all of my fields, including date/year ones when using `bibtex-clean-entry`. On the other hand, it is true there is a dearth of documentation for "bibtex.el". It=E2=80=99s comments state: > See documentation for `bibtex-mode' or type "M-x describe-mode" when > you are in BibTeX mode. I might have missed it, but I cannot find a built-in documentation for it. And what we get for "C-h m" is scant. I have found some time ago something that has been put online. http://www.jonathanleroux.org/bibtex-mode.html It=E2=80=99s been made available with a note: > I am not the author of this file and am only putting it online > because, to my knowledge, it is not available anywhere else anymore > and I find it a very valuable reference. I wish to acknowledge here > the work of its author Stefan Schoef. I haven't been able to find out > who the current maintainer of the BibTex-Mode for GNU emacs is, but am > willing to withdraw this text or add any copyright notice that would > be deemed relevant.=20 >=20 > Jonathan Le Roux, June 2009.=20 But that=E2=80=99s the only source I=E2=80=99ve ever found for it. And it = is the most comprehensive piece I=E2=80=99ve found about it too, by far. Best regards, Gustavo Barros.