From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37840: Missing in the Emacs manuals: Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 00:41:17 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <8736f07hma.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <5440997d-8f3f-12f9-ae9e-c0caadde4a01@gmx.at> <81790531-20E9-4919-A485-0D8FE6F60CE1@univie.ac.at> <38fdbe2c-5f1a-3b37-da5f-e2fa6411d8e1@gmx.at> <4ee75419-6f22-4928-3ddb-1add957fb9e4@gmx.at> <568AD058-07B1-4C58-81C5-32E2492C1EC5@univie.ac.at> <554177EF-4600-4F68-89F1-3AF67A551F65@univie.ac.at> <438c4dfa-f7c2-5f5e-32bc-eafdd7c33cb7@gmx.at> <3e7f7f10-9151-659b-076d-2bd8ed61d395@gmx.at> <4f7e6535-ac09-bd8c-f3d4-8ae9b4d9d58e@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="104316"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 37840@debbugs.gnu.org, Konrad Podczeck To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 06 23:43:27 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU1P-000R2I-6a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:43:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35864 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU1N-0001Nn-Q4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:43:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35735) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU11-0001Kn-Rn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:43:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU10-000183-QJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:43:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60798) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU10-00017x-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:43:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU10-0000hv-Gm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:43:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 22:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37840 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37840-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37840.15730801272618 (code B ref 37840); Wed, 06 Nov 2019 22:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37840) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2019 22:42:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41383 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU07-0000gA-9B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:42:07 -0500 Original-Received: from bisque.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.18]:30159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSU04-0000g1-PF for 37840@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:42:05 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600065E35E9; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 22:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-92-150.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.92.150]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F15675E3606; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 22:41:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Wed, 06 Nov 2019 22:41:58 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Robust-Chief: 06bfa3466481ea32_1573080118220_2114780901 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1573080118220:1111652904 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1573080118220 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B007BAA4F9; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 14:41:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=linkov.net; bh=G9Dn+7 5STazFKGnHnoHGvEs01vs=; b=I0cnScALbmguosqsKNT8rDWkXmOR+QqgA7wIQB jqwyWasIc0pr9xcqcCZX5COjVWLk/Dc0msH9tZMexEKsWWpxmwqEDue1wTsUYTZ/ eCtUEcCq2K5ExbuT4NuDT/MVPo4huhcOeCUz3z1+sNx3N1r0d9xoW85d/bJwL47N eYtD4= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-102-1.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D73EFAA507; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 14:41:48 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a56 In-Reply-To: <4f7e6535-ac09-bd8c-f3d4-8ae9b4d9d58e@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 4 Nov 2019 20:10:26 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171050 Archived-At: >> I set 'switch-to-buffer-obey-display-actions=E2=80=99 to t, so to a no= n-nil value! > > My bad. According to its doc-string > > If non-nil, `switch-to-buffer' runs `pop-to-buffer-same-window' inste= ad. > > it just pops to the buffer in the same window and even using > 'inhibit-same-window' won't prevent it from doing that. So in this > particular case you have to set 'menu-bar-select-buffer-function' to > 'pop-to-buffer'. > > As for the general case I wouldn't know. Juri, how about a special > value say 'strict' for 'switch-to-buffer-obey-display-actions' that > simply makes it behave like 'pop-to-buffer'? Or at least obey > 'inhibit-same-window'? Those hard-coded 'switch-to-buffer' instances > are really hard to get by. But pop-to-buffer-same-window still follows rules from display-buffer-alist that can override inhibit-same-window.