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Tue, 17 Mar 2020 01:51:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:46:47 -0700 (PDT)") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3Y5+n5ZMOL6uohFwzoZz5efdgtgb9atwlj0O7wb8D+l1IvEUv+3 wScIsywdWeecM64aXf/AcODBYlT/3yL3XgwsK2e6OxEEpgE5ddKI0l6qhIZossXixkp+/L9 kg+utjoa9vIanDxTJQkDSXhLyyeqzElRFknTGcxjjkTTJDYHrLK4UFczcPSty8B6tqPjOqu DvSLFTQtyFdeo6ZbdQWaA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:dLogUWnKzBA=:ugc2IMIYtH0qkumIR8/K2Y iHNgmvroNQwGHGsDXWHlsJdKXXnpjzBO5ah4gItQ/8Ot38Jo5pGHxl5tyWCQQNu2FgTH55t+u fV+fAtmYWhPAN17YGGtlRPYasUk+6PDwhlHuTs0fBmIW5lPr01BqvlGKS656MuMkCSTmaY5CZ 0TkVQ6JIaPPJfG+PKLmpOAHsVepBfdTIqy0MiKSlO7OXtFDC8JFwmB+P0UhrmcDF/8UUPC/gv m0cAOrtH6MJrVzEpaNHOnwutoxncRhgu39jOkhfbNpX8rVb5DuOsNBLI8Or7pviHtv5EX76Vc Q9aCbM8GTpJgHOzt4k4zPE7lDoeq20JPTevkIe/3zLizGja8BvLSzLUM+x+SPibUXdsp45RTa JPJg7jAdfdK2MnkGA5RLpQXlcmtqxMflAjLT7VMdAnTvHfy4t3FLMGtY4twqM9Hk2Ktz68pUw 7iaOWO4wxvvjJolr5AcafG4sbiE3NARNn/n+0wROj3qGYcSGM+75VSnD8yhajYYxbI8fisEL0 8ZsuACY0vu4yhGHpCHLxqavZpx19tr9DcBgCqv12JY/quwfDdLZvB1i6KXva4gBi1mfUuAciA 6MpcvmKJkjR1G8Tf9YaahAE5zBVFdZ2jMswQsYTYh3dHgtRBEFJ4L72Sl2MEzYsqAEDpbh4KO DvUEmVisNz/0XtstdoBGYFr2J0EZ6QAEP3izw+49aKvvXwMIkHOy5qa9h7DKiAXRE6AqFL73l ulowDjuEYrrWWr0XUiUYyfpltD2Vx+mDlYK7qRJE9Z1trFSSvilDosRudFrkGjPrdZkn+607 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:177428 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > > This is an important property of the current > > implementation. > > It's not at all a property of the behavior > of using a region to select. Irrelevant. > Apples & oranges. I think he thinks in terms of consistency. But consistency depends on the view point, so his consistency is of no value for people with a different view point. Too bad we only know about three opinions. > Please, add any options you like, if the > default behavior is to fix this (minor) bug > as just mentioned. That doesn't mean that > I agree that we need such an option, or that > it's a good idea to add it. But (as I said > already) if that's the price for getting the > bug fixed, so be it. I see our different views as of the same right and value. And the use case (who uses marking commands with an active region at all?) is a corner case. I don't mind about the default as long as there is a new option. I would rather want to discuss what else should be done (behavior of other marking commands etc, should we change `dired-mark-if', etc. Michael.