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* bug#48192: forward-word and friends have inconsistent behaviour with Unicode and ASCII punctuation
@ 2021-05-03 14:37 Daphne Preston-Kendal
  2021-05-03 15:26 ` Daphne Preston-Kendal
  2021-05-03 15:49 ` Andreas Schwab
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daphne Preston-Kendal @ 2021-05-03 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 48192

forward-word, backward-word etc. have inconsistent behaviour when
applied to text containing ASCII straight quotation marks vs. Unicode
quotation marks. The word
    don't
with a straight quote (U+0027) counts as a single word, and forward-word
and backward-word will move over the whole thing. Meanwhile,
    don’t
with a curly quote (U+2019) counts as two words, and the cursor will
stop at ‘don’ and ‘t’ separately. (Fundamental mode, Emacs 27.2.)

This also means count-words/count-words-region give surprising results
when applied to text containing Unicode curly apostrophes, since they
work by counting the number of times the cursor can move
forward-word-strictly between given start and end points. (Since it uses
forward-word-strictly and not forward-word, the problem can’t be solved
by customizing find-word-boundary-function-table.)

The Right Thing in my view would be for Emacs to use the Unicode TR29
word boundary rules to work out where to put the cursor when
forward-word and backward-word are invoked. They handle punctuation
characters correctly, and rules are not too complicated.
<http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/#Word_Boundaries>
However, how this would interact with the existing
find-word-boundary-function-table customization method, I don’t know.
CLDR makes customizations of the rules for specific (human) languages;
perhaps they could be ported into Emacs somehow.

As a temporary workaround to get correct-ish word counts for my
documents, I’ve hacked up a function that uses how-many instead of
forward-word to count the number of words in a region.
<https://gitlab.com/dpk/dotfiles/-/blob/master/.emacs.d/lisp/wc-mode.el>






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2021-05-03 14:37 bug#48192: forward-word and friends have inconsistent behaviour with Unicode and ASCII punctuation Daphne Preston-Kendal
2021-05-03 15:26 ` Daphne Preston-Kendal
2022-07-01 11:34   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-01 15:14     ` Robert Pluim
2022-07-30 14:07       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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