From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41403: A more user-friendly version of GNU Emacs Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:33:38 +0200 Message-ID: <8735q2t3d9.fsf@gnus.org> References: <1572340523.1158427.1589893725280.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1572340523.1158427.1589893725280@mail.yahoo.com> <87lflny20s.fsf@web.de> <87zgsbtaqr.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2754"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Andrew Goh , 41403@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 18 15:34:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTr-0000Za-5k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:34:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTq-0002XT-1v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46472) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTi-0002XK-5t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50573) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTh-0001ph-UZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTh-0001Qp-Pu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41403 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 41403-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41403.16319720325486 (code B ref 41403); Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41403) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2021 13:33:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTY-0001QQ-Ga for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTU-0001QA-0T for 41403@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:33:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=wu7a00rIGRDfz550NFe890XR72wHtAbpwJhnSCo4uPE=; b=YHhMNmoWD7cxSMcICMErisvcT9 vBHixCVOoQQnPIrrzA2qYvVhLEFxqoR/D6Mt/UtcxDqRv9szdpq0XJkX1Qh7av51kUIE+krD2Ybip CpKrc4HTt2Ip7QTeNulUg0aoPHiQEth1WIeZlM3cKBhIk2bO5Py3Xlq+58nRJnOk7Ixk=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaTK-0003h3-NC; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:33:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2021 13:57:33 -0700") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214628 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I took a look at the refcards, and it is pretty full of stuff already. > > One thing caught my eye, namely this information: > > Starting Emacs > To enter GNU Emacs 28, just type its name: emacs > > This seems useless, for two reasons: > A) The overwhelming majority of users will click an icon to start Emacs. > B) Any other users will already know to type "emacs". Yeah, that's pretty useless. > This leaves me wondering if putting a brief explanation of our strange > key conventions on there isn't a better use of space. That's true. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no