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Fri, 01 Jul 2022 08:14:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87pmip6p83.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2022 13:34:36 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235817 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 13:34:36 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Daphne Preston-Kendal writes: >> However, the behaviour of considering "don't", "can't" etc. and almo= st >> any English possessive as two words for the purposes of count-words = etc. >> is undoubtedly wrong for most users in my book. Lars> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't res= olved Lars> at the time.) Lars> I think it would make sense to make text-mode give =E2=80=99 (RIG= HT SINGLE Lars> QUOTATION MARK) a word constituent syntax, because many people us= e that Lars> character interchangeably with ' (APOSTROPHE). Lars> But that's not really the intention behind that character. RIGHT= SINGLE Lars> QUOTATION MARK is to allow quoting like =E2=80=98this=E2=80=99 --= i.e., the =E2=80=99 is not Lars> meant to be used inside words. Lars> So changing the syntax here would be controversial since it's "wr= ong" to Lars> use the =E2=80=99 character instead of APOSTROPHE, even though it= 's common. Lars> Does anybody have an opinion here? What people should do is use U+02BC, MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE, since that has word-constituent syntax already. (what, the world=CA=BCs not going to change to suit me, you say? =F0=9F=98= =BC) Robert --=20