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From: Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 57372@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57372: no-toolkit menu popups do not respect emacs font configuration
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 23:57:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735dli9t3.fsf@logand.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sfll4esu.fsf@gnu.org>

On Wed 24 Aug 2022 at 22:33, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> (defun set-text-height (new-height)
>>   (set-face-attribute 'default nil :height new-height))
>> 
>> How could I achieve what you suggest so that setting the font height
>> would also apply to menu item X resource font?
>
> Make the function write to the ~/.Xresources file?
>
> Of course, X doesn't necessarily understand the Emacs units of
> measuring fonts, for example the relative units.  So eventually you'll
> need separate customizations.  However, I don't expect you to have to
> change these customizations too frequently.

The point of C-+ and C-- bindings is that I can just press a key and
grow or shrink the font.  That is essential for me.  My gui terminal can
do that out of the box, my console can do that with a bit of elisp
calling setfont, firefox can do that out of the box, and gui Emacs can
do that using the code I showed earlier; except the menu text we are
discussing.

This font size change happens on demand, when a key is pressed.

I guess writing to the ~/.Xresources file would work only on startup.

Then there seems to be the issue you said that Emacs and X has different
idea of describing fonts/units.

It is just complex and inconvenient.

> More generally, I don't see a way around the fact that different parts
> of the system need to be customized differently.

Why?

At the moment, it is the consequence of the way the no-toolkit menu is
implemented.

But surely it could be possible to change it to customize no-toolkit
menu text the same way as any other face.

> Many programs have
> their own init files, and some even have more than one: for example,
> Bash, GDB, and any other program that uses Readline will typically
> have customizations in ~/.inputrc, in addition to the program-specific
> init file, such as ~/.gdbinit for GDB.

This is not only about init files.

This is about making it not to have more init files, because unlike
customizing and changing faces, customizing a different system out of
Emacs is complex, fragile, inconvenient and might be impossible (is it
possible to change the menu text X resource on key press?).





  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-24 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-23 20:47 bug#57372: no-toolkit menu popups do not respect emacs font configuration Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-24  2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24  8:15   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-24 10:56     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 11:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 12:11         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 12:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 12:34             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 12:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 13:01                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 13:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 13:23                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 13:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 13:39                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 14:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 19:07                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-24 19:36                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 23:10                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-08-25  1:08                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 17:49             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-24 17:59               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 19:01                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-24 19:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 21:57                     ` Tomas Hlavaty [this message]
2022-08-25  1:40                       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-25  6:42                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-25 18:21                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-25 19:02                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-26  7:13                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-26  7:42                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-13 20:06                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-09-14  1:59                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-26  1:13                           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-25  1:28                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-25  1:26                   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-25  1:25               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-24 16:15         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-24 16:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 18:54             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-24 19:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 22:59                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-25  6:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-25 19:07                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-25 19:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-26  7:19                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-26 10:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-26 10:54                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-26 11:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-26 11:18                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-26 11:31                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-24 11:47       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-24 16:09       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-25  1:09         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-25 19:18           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-08-26  1:11             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-08-26  6:54               ` Tomas Hlavaty

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