From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58406: 29.0.50; Bars refactoring? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 9e38578f86ef6b32ab33c388af94002c; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 08:51:44 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87tu4cyszl.fsf@elite.giraud> (Manuel Giraud's message of "Mon, 10 Oct 2022 10:37:18 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20702 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:244997 Archived-At: Manuel Giraud writes: > mouse over highlight: like the relief on tool bar button or, even > better, with highlight face like on the modeline. I'm afraid I don't see the utility of that in a menu bar, since it doesn't consist of "buttons" in the sense that the tool bar or tab bar do, and no program does that anymore. > I understand that it is too close to Emacs 29. Do you think the menu > bar could be made to mimic some feature of the tool bar (like tab bar > did)? Or do you think it would add to the cargo cult? I'd rather not touch any of the *bar code before Emacs 29 is cut. Most people do not use the bars, leading to many latent bugs. Examples: mouse face not being cleared when tooltips are enabled and the mouse moves outside the frame, last_tool_bar_item not being cleared in the same case, and last_tab_bar_item not being cleared, leading to mouse highlight not working after the mouse is released outside a frame. These bugs are particularly nasty because they only happen in rare situations, but can completely ruin the visual appearance of a frame when they do.