* -geometry vs. font size
@ 2002-07-25 20:52 Dan Jacobson
2002-07-25 21:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2002-07-25 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
On the man page:
-geometry geometry
Set the Emacs window's width, height, and position
as specified. The geometry specification is in
the standard X format; see X(1) for more informa-
tion. The width and height are specified in char-
acters; the default is 80 by 40.
But shouldn't there be added words like "you won't get what you expect
if you change the default font size [in .emacs or .Xdefaults ?],
especially if started from an .xsession file. The remedy is ... "
I wonder if the eagerly awaited --fullscreen will screw up to.
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* Re: -geometry vs. font size
2002-07-25 20:52 -geometry vs. font size Dan Jacobson
@ 2002-07-25 21:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2002-07-26 21:29 ` -geometry vs. tool-bar-mode Dan Jacobson
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From: Alfred M. Szmidt @ 2002-07-25 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: gnu-emacs-bug
Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net> writes:
> On the man page:
> -geometry geometry
> Set the Emacs window's width, height, and position
> as specified. The geometry specification is in
> the standard X format; see X(1) for more informa-
> tion. The width and height are specified in char-
> acters; the default is 80 by 40.
>
> But shouldn't there be added words like "you won't get what you expect
> if you change the default font size [in .emacs or .Xdefaults ?],
What do you mean? If I specify `emacs -geometry 100x100' then I will get
the width and height as I would expect it (100x100 characters). If I use
`emacs --font 6x10' then I will get 80x40 characters frame but with a
6x10 font.
Cheers,
--
Alfred M. Szmidt
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* Re: -geometry vs. tool-bar-mode
2002-07-25 21:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
@ 2002-07-26 21:29 ` Dan Jacobson
2002-07-26 22:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2002-07-29 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2002-07-26 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "A" == Alfred M Szmidt <ams@kemisten.nu> writes:
A> What do you mean? If I specify `emacs -geometry 100x100' then I will get
A> the width and height as I would expect it (100x100 characters).
I bet it is us users with (tool-bar-mode 0) in .emacs that feel the
silliest about this calculation. Can please
1. --geometry be evaluated _after_ the tool-bar-mode, or
2. prominent words be added to the emacs man page -geometry section
warning that if one dabbles with tool-bar-mode 0, one must rethink his
-geometry wishes. Also add this to emacs --help output.
By the way, on the man page don't you want to write --geometry etc. instead
of -geometry, at least judging from the emphasis "--" is given on the
--help output. Yes, both work (do mention that) but we want to
promote "--".
Also note --geometry vs tool-bar-mode in the tool-bar-mode docstrings.
Anyways, all I know is the size reported by alt f8 in icewm ...
OK, so I've got it all upside down, whatever.
All I wanted to do was have a "fullsize" emacs created from my
.xsession file.
Why may I ask does
$ emacs #from the shell
give me one
whilst
emacs & in .xsession
give me one that is 3 lines shorter. Yes my xrdb line comes first.
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* Re: -geometry vs. tool-bar-mode
2002-07-26 21:29 ` -geometry vs. tool-bar-mode Dan Jacobson
@ 2002-07-26 22:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2002-07-27 2:46 ` Dan Jacobson
2002-07-29 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alfred M. Szmidt @ 2002-07-26 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: gnu-emacs-bug
Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net> writes:
> >>>>> "A" == Alfred M Szmidt <ams@kemisten.nu> writes:
>
> A> What do you mean? If I specify `emacs -geometry 100x100' then I will get
> A> the width and height as I would expect it (100x100 characters).
>
> I bet it is us users with (tool-bar-mode 0) in .emacs that feel the
> silliest about this calculation. Can please
It is you who are being silly in your bug report, you are not being
very clear. What exactly do you mean?
> By the way, on the man page don't you want to write --geometry etc. instead
> of -geometry, at least judging from the emphasis "--" is given on the
> --help output. Yes, both work (do mention that) but we want to
> promote "--".
GNU projects don't use man pages as their official source for
information, --help and the info page is used for this.
> Also note --geometry vs tool-bar-mode in the tool-bar-mode docstrings.
I do not see any such reference in the tool-bar-mode docstring, both
for the function and variable. Please be more clear.
When reporting a bug report report what you are seeing and why you
think it is a bug, you haven't done this. Please do it next time so
that we can stop playing these guessing games and waste time.
--
Alfred M. Szmidt
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* Re: -geometry vs. tool-bar-mode
2002-07-26 22:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
@ 2002-07-27 2:46 ` Dan Jacobson
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2002-07-27 2:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "A" == Alfred M Szmidt <ams@kemisten.nu> writes:
A> It is you who are being silly in your bug report, you are not being
A> very clear. What exactly do you mean?
$ emacs --no-site-file -q --eval '(tool-bar-mode 0)' -geometry 10x10
gives me a 10x7 window while
$ emacs --no-site-file -q -geometry 10x10
gives me a 10x10 window. Given that the user asked for a 10x10
window, he should be given it.
>> By the way, on the man page don't you want to write --geometry etc. instead
>> of -geometry, at least judging from the emphasis "--" is given on the
>> --help output. Yes, both work (do mention that) but we want to
>> promote "--".
A> GNU projects don't use man pages as their official source for
A> information, --help and the info page is used for this.
All I know is I did
debian_$ man emacs
and it said on there
Richard Stallman encourages you to improve and extend Emacs
and I thought it also applied to the man pages that came with it.
>> Also note --geometry vs tool-bar-mode in the tool-bar-mode docstrings.
A> I do not see any such reference in the tool-bar-mode docstring, both
A> for the function and variable. Please be more clear.
by "note" I meant "please notate", "please add a notation"
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* Re: -geometry vs. tool-bar-mode
2002-07-26 21:29 ` -geometry vs. tool-bar-mode Dan Jacobson
2002-07-26 22:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
@ 2002-07-29 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-07-29 1:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: gnu-emacs-bug
I have improved the documentation of this.
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