From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daiki Ueno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17391: Bug#745553: emacs24-el: mml2015-always-trust should default to nil, not t Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:34:22 +0100 Message-ID: <871svpobsx.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> References: <20140422190613.18043.21415.reportbug@alice.fifthhorseman.net> <877g6eilsp.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <53640041.7070703@fifthhorseman.net> <87k29jvyzc.fsf@gnus.org> <87a8aehpf8.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <87a8aenaqe.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> <87a8add5ye.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485459400 4860 195.159.176.226 (26 Jan 2017 19:36:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:36:40 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 745553@bugs.debian.org, 17338@debbugs.gnu.org, Justus Winter , rlb@defaultvalue.org, 745553-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , 17391@debbugs.gnu.org, Daniel Kahn Gillmor , "Neal H. Walfield" To: Jens Lechtenboerger Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 26 20:36:34 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWpqL-0000CG-NZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:36:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWpqR-0004df-0T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:36:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45685) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWpq2-0004Vl-4O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:36:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWppz-00083r-0R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:36:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWppy-00083m-TG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWppy-0005uS-Nb; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:36:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17391 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17391-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17391.148545935122691 (code B ref 17391); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17391) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 19:35:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46042 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWppn-0005tv-Dr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:35:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54633) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWppl-0005tg-7m for 17391@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:35:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWppc-00080m-S3 for 17391@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:35:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWpog-0007lP-Ky; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:34:42 -0500 Original-Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:49652 helo=localhost.localdomain) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cWpof-0001rC-8k; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:34:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87a8add5ye.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> (Jens Lechtenboerger's message of "Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:36:09 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:128589 Archived-At: Jens Lechtenboerger writes: >> Modern versions of GnuPG automatically select the key which GnuPG knows >> to have the best validity among all matches for the selector, thanks to >> work put in by Justus Winter (cc'ed), so letting GnuPG make the decision >> would relieve emacs of most of the hard work here, and would also mean >> that any changes that the user makes to their GnuPG keyring would >> automatically take effect in emacs without mml-mode needing to do >> anything. > > The mml code is based on EasyPG by Daiki Ueno (cc=E2=80=99ed). EasyPG ma= kes > use of sub-keys and their IDs for encryption commands, instead of > relying on GnuPG=E2=80=99s selections. It was suggested by Werner to do key selection in Emacs, like GPGME. I don't know whether GPGME changed the logic though. >> Modern versions of GnuPG also provide a "tofu" mechanism to store and >> track that kind of decision in. Neal Walfield (also cc'ed here) put in >> a lot of that implementation, so he might have some suggestions for the >> best way to handle it. I'm afraid I wouldn't do any work toward tofu at this level of quality; in particular, until they reach the consensus whether tofu is only activated when encryption is triggered by an email address. Regards, --=20 Daiki Ueno