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From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <ambrevar@gmail.com>
Cc: 29157@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#29157: 25.3; Eshell parsing fails sometimes, e.g. "date" and "sed"
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:50:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871skmyyyh.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lgiui6qc.fsf@gmail.com> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Sat, 25 Nov 2017 18:54:51 +0100")

Pierre Neidhardt <ambrevar@gmail.com> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> We could fallback to the external command if given arguments.  This is
>>> being done currently for other commands like eshell/rm (for unrecognized
>>> arguments, that is).

>> That doesn't sound right to me (for rm as well): it will fail in
>> strange ways for systems where the external command is absent or
>> deficient.

Currently eshell falls back to external command for unrecognized
arguments when passing :external to eshell-eval-using-options.  A quick
grep for :external brings up: rm, mkdir, rmdir, mv, cp, ln, cat, du,
time, env, ls.

>> Observe:
>>
>> 	~/git/emacs/branch $ date 42
>> 	Wed Dec 31 19:00:42 1969
>> But
>> 	~/git/emacs/branch $ *date 42
>> 	/bin/date: invalid date ‘42’
>>
>> So I'm not sure such a naïve solution is TRT in this case, because we
>> are losing valuable features by doing that,

So we could also check for an integer argument.

>> and those features are not
>> just an accident, they were intentionally included in Eshell.

Hmm, my impression of eshell is more like "throw a bunch of features at
the wall and see what sticks" but without the "see what sticks" part.

> The issue here is mostly my lack of awareness about what is an Elisp
> command and what is a system program.
>
> Maybe having different syntax highlighting for the "verb" depending on
> whether it's a system program or an Elisp command would help avoiding
> the pitfall.
>
> Is there a trivial way to do this?  If not I'll work on it.

There is no such feature, as far as I know.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-25 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-05 11:37 bug#29157: 25.3; Eshell parsing fails sometimes, e.g. "date" and "sed" Pierre Neidhardt
2017-11-05 13:58 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-05 14:16   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2017-11-23  3:13     ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-23  6:55       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2017-11-23 12:59         ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-23 16:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25 17:54             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2017-11-25 18:32               ` Michael Albinus
2017-11-25 18:35                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2017-11-25 18:50               ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2017-11-25 19:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25 20:06                   ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-25 20:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25 21:41                       ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-26  3:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-26  3:21                   ` John Wiegley
2017-11-26 15:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-26 21:44                       ` John Wiegley
2017-11-25 19:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25 19:36                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2017-11-25 19:57                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-26  9:17                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2017-11-26 15:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-26  3:21                 ` John Wiegley
2017-11-26 15:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-26 21:45                     ` John Wiegley
2017-11-27  3:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21  8:17                         ` John Wiegley
2017-12-03 20:43         ` Noam Postavsky
2017-12-04  8:43           ` John Wiegley
2017-12-04 12:51             ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-05 15:16   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-11-10  2:04     ` Noam Postavsky

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