From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38035: 27.0.50; Trivial errors in process filters can render Emacs unusable Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:54:57 +0100 Message-ID: <871rui5bry.fsf@gnus.org> References: <874kzmdv0q.fsf@gnus.org> <83ftj5hsal.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfswap7q.fsf@gnus.org> <83d0e8j3it.fsf@gnu.org> <87eeyi5cck.fsf@gnus.org> <831ruiay99.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="173779"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 38035@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 21:56:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBIg-000j3l-UU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:56:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60322 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBIf-0006cP-QD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:56:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51973) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBIZ-0006cD-LB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:56:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBIY-0002tI-Gt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:56:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBIY-0002tE-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBIY-0002Y0-BF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:56:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 20:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38035 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38035-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38035.15732465049712 (code B ref 38035); Fri, 08 Nov 2019 20:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 20:55:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBHb-0002WZ-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:53310) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBHZ-0002W6-Jv for 38035@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iTBHV-0007GN-Gu; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:55:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <831ruiay99.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:50:26 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171263 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> But we don't do this with errors that happen in other circumstances -- >> just the filter errors, I think? > > Because reception of process output is not necessarily a frequent > event, so we want to be sure the user had enough time to see the > message. But why filters in particular? As I said, we don't do this with any other errors, including run-at-time (which is usually not a frequent thing at all). > I understand that it pissed you off, but the situation where it > happened will be resolved by the automatic disabling, so your past > annoyance doesn't need to affect anything else. IOW, I think you are > over-reacting here. I'm not pissed off? :-) I just think that Emacs should behave consistently. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no