From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40863: [PATCH] Improve the display-time-world UI Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 17:03:10 +0200 Message-ID: <871ro3g0k1.fsf@stefankangas.se> References: <831roa731a.fsf@gnu.org> <85y2qg976f.fsf@gmail.com> <83ees84w6g.fsf@gnu.org> <85tv1492ju.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="110467"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: 40863@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 01 17:10:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUXIw-000Sf6-Ti for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 01 May 2020 11:03:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <85tv1492ju.fsf@gmail.com> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:00:37 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179432 Archived-At: Noam Postavsky writes: >>> If an application expects a particular name, then it's already broken >>> because the user can change the defcustom at any time, right? And if a >>> user expects the old name, they can customize it back to the old value. >> >> So you are saying that we should change these names from time to time >> just to make a point? > > No, I think changing the name here makes it more readable (i.e., it's > not a random change, it's an improvement). And I think this benefit > outweighs the possible existence of broken applications, or users > possibly preferring the current value I think Noam presents a compelling argument here. It might be somewhat minor, and it might to some degree be a matter of preference. But even minor improvements can add up and contribute to the overall user experience. Best regards, Stefan Kangas