From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10773: set-variable can't change values of user options Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:14:34 +0200 Message-ID: <871riwu7wl.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87r4y4fik0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <5w1uq3lv3z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87sjijt2jv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <64pqdm4mtn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <878sd5pzam.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbdojgx.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6468"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Glenn Morris , 10773@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 20 11:15:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJvR8-0001UL-8P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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But I was worried that defcustom would be too heavy-handed here. > > I think if you're worried about the "cost" of `defcustom`, then we may > as well stick to `defvar` I was mainly worried that defcustom had further other subtle effects that I'm not aware of (:group? :version? the mandatory doc string?), but looking at the code in custom-declare-variable, it looks pretty straightforward... (Famous last words.) > (after all, it's not like it'll be very easy/convenient for the user > to use the Custom UI to add a function on those hooks). I think there's probably several bug reports about doing something about that. :-/ -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no