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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45926: Tabulated-list-mode wasteful properties Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:01:30 +0000 Message-ID: <871rckhbzp.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <20210117073252.k7f2x35lq3labahe@E15-2016.optimum.net> <87wnwb1y31.fsf@tcd.ie> <20210117151128.kwzzacivle4ecsfs@E15-2016.optimum.net> <878s8ppkgp.fsf@gnus.org> <20210312025709.cdqb6fl5cr7wa3dt@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20210312054607.cnj4b3orznc7tajs@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18794"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Kangas , 45926@debbugs.gnu.org To: Boruch Baum Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 12 12:02:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lKfZC-0004mN-1f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:02:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56428 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKfZA-0004Z4-VZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 06:02:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKfYQ-0004Xy-5H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 06:02:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKfYP-0006Yt-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 06:02:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKfYP-0001jm-Mw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 06:02:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Basil L. 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The opinions voiced so far are that there does not seem to be excessive duplication of data, since most of it is shared. You can help the discussion by providing either evidence to the contrary, or a patch that demonstrably lowers the memory usage of tabulated-list-mode and the package list. Stefan is being helpful by nudging a bug discussion that fell silent; it is unfair to expect him to do all the work (and where's the fun in that anyway ;). -- Basil