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Reininger & Mikel Rouse's _Colorado Suite_: "Side Wind" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:32:14 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:204203 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Oh, I don't use any of that stuff. I have my own custom .xinitrc > instead with as little stuff as possible in it. So I'm not sure how I > could even set such a setting. I suppose it's some gconf stuff taking > place behind the scenes...? I poked around, and it's "Settings -> Sound -> System Sounds" in Gnome Shell that I had switched to a volume of zero. > It is my understanding that Emacs is unusual in using the system bell > though. It would be better to avoid it completely, even when that > setting is on. I turned the volume up, and saying "lTAB" in the shell (in a Console window) then beeped audibly. So the default here is to make sounds. And I just checked the same on my Apple laptop -- the shell there also beeps a lot. (I haven't checked whether any other programs beep at me.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no