From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14736: 24.3; "Insert" key results in question mark mouse cursor and does not send a keyboard event Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 08:02:14 +0200 Message-ID: <871r80p121.fsf@gnus.org> References: <1832345773.5319.1372382464778.JavaMail.root@nerur.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25594"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Kumaran Santhanam , 14736@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Third Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 15 08:03:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uSj-0006Sh-Vk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 08:03:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43806 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uSi-0003ZJ-Ut for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uSc-0003XS-Pi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uSc-00086P-Hf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uSc-0004Gs-FB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 06:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14736 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 14736-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14736.162632894815665 (code B ref 14736); Thu, 15 Jul 2021 06:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14736) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2021 06:02:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46461 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uS4-00044N-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:02:28 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uS1-0003y8-5w for 14736@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:02:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=wq/f/IB41MgszgvhNhLHI9wMc6dWKmfayD9q2VxfEr0=; b=tiwUqNfDerBtVkG1kJ7AjZBMxd kjZj+w+6FHAXAmsopfWJ1aNarnvTGQa3KxdLvYhQ0wDSEWarVPkiTBaQEnckd0ru8jZmC0DxKaZgP HEbQbZg5WYKFZD0d42hiKuektOkS8Ud8sfY1SsZer241oglhN2uvFNO55tvuMBzO6dG4=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uRr-0004Yi-9h; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 08:02:18 +0200 X-Now-Playing: L.u.c.a.'s _Fabric 94: Steffi_: "Echo 1" In-Reply-To: (Alan Third's message of "Tue, 31 May 2016 21:41:10 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:209990 Archived-At: Alan Third writes: > Kumaran Santhanam writes: > >> On Mac OS X, the "Insert" key on external keyboards is mapped to >> "Help". Therefore, when the "Insert" key is pressed, the mouse cursor >> turns into a question mark and the key is not passed to Emacs to >> process. This is problematic because users may have keybindings from >> Linux and Windows that make use of the "Insert" key. > > Confirmed as still present in Emacs 25. > > Is there some use for the "help" key and question-mark pointer? > > Interestingly, it looks like on recent Apple keyboards "insert" is > replaced with fn instead of help. I don't have an external keyboard for my Apple laptop, so I can't test myself. Is this issue still present in newer versions of Emacs/Macos? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no