From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9054: 24.0.50; show source in other window Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 19:07:04 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <871r5px383.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87k4bovfd0.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87eea09rwg.fsf@gnus.org> <878s05wxx8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuisras8.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee9wh4kh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <82a9592e-b05a-399c-419e-fcbb3e829b35@gmx.at> <87czpfymhj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <44514af3-09b8-8b6b-c436-cfc5f899142a@gmx.at> <87fsu8pdcp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87lf40nwol.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <875122a9-0ff9-4479-97dc-3860466a2b11@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13116"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 9054@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 15 18:12:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXWK-0003Dt-12 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 18:12:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42090 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXWI-0007CU-4N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:12:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXVy-0007Au-Um for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXVy-0005Fe-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXVy-0002fw-Hw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9054 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 9054-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9054.163172231810267 (code B ref 9054); Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9054) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2021 16:11:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXVu-0002fX-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:11:58 -0400 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:43901) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mQXVs-0002f4-LR for 9054@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:11:57 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92CED2000A; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:11:48 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <875122a9-0ff9-4479-97dc-3860466a2b11@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:28:03 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214408 Archived-At: >>>> (1) Help for this object >>>> (2) Manual entry of this object >>> >>> Good idea. This should be added to emacs-lisp-mode. >> >> Now added. > > Thanks. But to make this really useful for new users we should not talk > about "symbols" and "identifiers" here - maybe using "this" instead > would be better. And we should provide some feedback when there's no > useful information here. Consider with > > (setq x 3) > > clicking on "x" or "3". There is already feedback when there is no Manual entry: (error "Not documented as a symbol:")