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Gomes"'s message of "Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:57:55 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:221849 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:57:55 +0000, Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes said: Andr=C3=A9> Robert Pluim writes: >>>>>>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 20:14:00 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: >>=20 Eli> That's okay, but we should have this as an optional behavior, so t= hat Eli> people could still toggle only between some input method and no in= put Eli> method with a single C-\, even if they defined a list of them. >>=20 >> It would be optional: people who choose to customize >> default-input-method to a list get the behaviour, people who leave it >> as a symbol don=CA=BCt. I don=CA=BCt see why we=CA=BCd need to add >> yet-another-variable to essentially say "ignore this request you've >> made via this other variable". Andr=C3=A9> If I understand correctly, we're not discussing variables b= ut commands. Andr=C3=A9> Eli urges that it's import to keep C-\ as a toggle, and to = add another Andr=C3=A9> command to cycle the ring. Seems fair to me, so that the o= ld behaviour Andr=C3=A9> is preserved. We can keep C-\ as a toggle, 100% identical to how it works today. All people who have customized `default-input-method' to a single value have to do is nothing whatsoever. If we=CA=BCre now saying we want a separate command that cycles through a list of input methods, then we might as well add a separate user option for that list (and then we could add *another* user option called input-method-toggle-or-cycle to indicate which command should be used for C-\) I guess we could also have C-u C-u C-\ mean 'cycle', but that=CA=BCs unergonomic. Robert --=20