From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57974: 2022-08-30; Enhancing help facility for function doc string Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 13:56:58 +0200 Message-ID: <871qs56iut.fsf@gnus.org> References: <1509.1663752344@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16703"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 57974@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ikumi Keita Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 21 13:58:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oayN3-0004DM-NX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 13:58:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58718 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oayN2-0006CZ-6u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 07:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oayMq-00068Y-M1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 07:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oayMc-0003gf-DO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 07:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oayMc-00038I-8c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 07:58:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57974 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57974-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57974.166376143411983 (code B ref 57974); Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57974) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2022 11:57:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oayLp-00037D-Os for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 07:57:14 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oayLn-00036v-5k for 57974@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 07:57:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=F3g0kwHhoS50d/UoJaNar9FEdzK8YKWhAAzCWjoojk4=; b=KKiSdlOf/3JwlWj/85m/9KSzPi O+M0TNVYvx+viRXO4p3UC2KgDe5zfhxS2pl20qosP5NeAfhuX1oZ5bNkwvnAkdoGCxzf+ebs7wMhM AcE10GewILRky1BECmVvPqcbJUSo0u+8qmmSZldCjZRPPtjTCWYpsnpemQGYn2n5Mlm4=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oayLa-0004kR-LQ; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 13:57:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1509.1663752344@localhost> (Ikumi Keita's message of "Wed, 21 Sep 2022 18:25:44 +0900") X-Now-Playing: Niki Mono's _Contradictions are a Luxury_: "In A Rush" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:243314 Archived-At: Ikumi Keita writes: > This is a wishlist for record rather than a bug report. See > for the > background. > > When a Elisp function A has :override advice B, help facility (C-h f) > displays doc string A, not B. It only indicates > This function has :override advice: THE-NAME-OF-B > modestly. > > This is inconvenient, especially when A is a (major or minor) mode > function and the user typed C-h m in that mode buffer. > > It would be worth considering to enhance the help facility to display > doc string of B instead when A is overrided by advice. I'm not quite sure I follow your meaning here. Do you have a complete recipe, starting from "emacs -Q", that displays the problem?