From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:24:53 +0000 Message-ID: <871qn1afay.fsf@localhost> References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23484"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 07 12:25:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pPM6J-0005rO-QZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 12:25:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPM69-0004I1-5j; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:25:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPM62-0004HO-6i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:25:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPM5u-0000Rl-Nf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:25:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPM5u-0001yW-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:25:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.16757690657526 (code B ref 61325); Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2023 11:24:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPM5I-0001xK-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:39915) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPM5H-0001x7-4n for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:24:23 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A43B240474 for <61325@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 12:24:16 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1675769057; bh=iFpSFNIPueJ+7x4nUolaSLpKSXQCsWadr/OWltkzx6k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=RAqYiEhZSmQeVrB6mJAnM7DcJlHSdx0G7uV1N9ksnSHvTR/15S4xy3BQaRdJKnNrA CsPwcjIugeJXCwLNF/XWpYbaSo9SQkjgcgX0dJr8EyI5OKQL3HK926JHb2LwGFAm2Z oY2LxDK6+3h6zKvup2apcM4kQ0qaSAKSJnL0Kq6B/Zr3sP/Hl/9zUIslf5nxlsnGUK IIJiIHT4E/kfIsgI6plp+0xPdUUyM4i+GGAKv0C6K9GK5kWZgiGgfZDp9wG0lZMiTu QEnI7TxP4j7tUEiCF5J940LK4et+khj8hcMOciN814xXIa2oYeFMzdEx4m7iPSM8tm xTojv5sxPQhMQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4PB13z433yz9rxF; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 12:24:15 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255030 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: >> 3.15 Exiting Gnus has >> >> ... >> 3.16 Group Topics >> ... > > I think this joke is fairly obvious for anyone who has tried to browse a > public news server. May you please elaborate which joke you are referring to? >> Also, I fail to understand what "kill files" really refers to here. Also >> some USA-specific context? Or is it Emacs killing concept? Deleting >> files on file system? > > Gnus is a news reader. Naturally, the indended audience of the jokes in > its manual are those who read net news. Since you don't know what a > kill or a (Gnus-specific) score file is, you can disregard that > paragraph. Agree. My other points remain. In particular, about joking on sex topic, which is present in the same paragraph. > The internet is for adults, not silly folk who cry about everything they > don't understand. I do not mind not understanding. But I do prefer to have manuals written in such a way that I can at least distinguish jokes from the technical information I actually need to use GNUS. I admit that the paragraph about "kill files" is clearly distinguishable as a joke. Not so much for 3.16 Group Topics where jokes and non-jokes are rather mixed. Also, note that Gnus is also email client. Are people who intend to use GNUS for email supposed to understand Newsgroup terminology in order to use GNUS? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at