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Mon, 13 Feb 2023 03:24:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pmaehdh6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 12 Feb 2023 11:48:21 -0800") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:u1sG34NWEofOXXafVZGHyZ7UWlLehV1EO/6rZTtbZ8Dc5r/Csvm xIwbewULnXPgVknKRZyeYrvwlc3N4mGOClnjOtX1o/PCEN5r/Sb0S/Mbcr52mccOkA+7VDr P5XONM0V+GtZ8TWOzyAC4tMy3bvSHugxKMG2Smy0cDqt9E25HPVbnO9ZYMk66hFBZs8awMx Vub2o7WsrXGWuXQGncDOg== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:ZDtDWFmQW5c=;1IGyzBET7lu4zM5YGl+cDXq9UNG rLhWUSTkFTr3ggiOQPP90ZR9UIzyH8cVXhkbvXpHEKQ4QClPastc6A2LIqnX3/Xe8p4Dgtigc AWJDaO8JWz0ka+0hU78O8eOxTg6c6pEtid8U3c0fpqvQz07AXYXj/esgN+46H8eyCTiaYvEX8 HwN2NnTTVDr0dDac1tAoN0YhRFrxMkezPmczVXTMaPiCG0RsL+yzwrJAVGZZaYbM+wq7jNWRD 4qWtJH+fuYf/LPXfea3zA6qFDLCj//xXst5Y7XecCKDIbMNktVbcnLM+hjkmuiPslXpbPA87l mRWFiWiPRcQfjGpmylvKHDpq+3JmqsqwR2otsWk0oT5in7Bta7W0xl0DKdRcdmDpdxgLUs0OA UmizgC/67p07Shmoks9QI+u3q/hjwvFujMod6csWyiJct60Arsn6KthS/VSpyFBiXqX0EVxDp 9rPu/8OAVEXlOAPmPAV/Bot5yEvjqWKExjPBvM4Rz39Mm6IigzPepF9ARHchWKkPdH0BJSr+g 6avGjnE1+/T9OZ2rpzW4EpL24FkasbvHY7P+KWu6+pxt6ZOEHy/aWGAMtLBgE4PyD+GfU2cwX /dqYUZlIc+teRQt6/2lCIFphzvTZEbfmkc4TGWFlikAls48ULAh5uw+c6uff2z/wZ7I8vpipx l1oG2m7up300CZWu/pCsEjVQyVxAbsd8LU2prvSujEi8cb0rK1bsI8sOYsjJJJuIgM7ljIRMk x9WfiDfdTa51Tfq5i3RsJliYAsS9hGzo2gT5ilojkehvcG8tDYIdgexeVf4YiPurly0vQ76a X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255451 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I have seen this, also with transient, and more recently with "compat", > and found it very annoying. I think I solved it by explicitly > uninstalling transient and everything that depended on it, and then > re-installing -- I haven't seen the problem since. Come to think of it > compat was also a Magit dependency, so I wonder if something about > Magit's package definition changed? Anyway I haven't seen this for a > while, so I forgot about it. I was not so lucky. Another package where the issue frequently appears seems to be helm-core. I guess a change in one package cannot explain everything. Maybe something in the Gnu Elpa archive? Michael.