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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID cdd0c2f440e72109afda6bc3c8e9f610; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 02:01:50 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Jim Porter's message of "Thu, 16 Mar 2023 12:36:15 -0700") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21311 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:258046 Archived-At: Jim Porter writes: > Agreed. I think a good general guideline is this: for icons which are > always in the same spot (e.g. the navigation buttons in your web > browser), color probably isn't that valuable, and possibly a > distraction. As a user, you'll quickly internalize where, say, the > back button is anyway. FWIW, I typically use the keyboard to navigate in a web browser, because Mozilla keeps changing the location of their navigation buttons. For example, the Home button used to be to the right of the Search box, but now it is to the right of the Reload button. > Still, I think I agree with the overall request: the current icons > could use some improvement, partly just to make sure they all feel > like they belong together. [...] > (This is worse on GTK builds, where some icons come from GTK and have > one visual style, but others come from Emacs and look totally > different.) This is mainly the fault of the GNOME developers: they keep changing their default icon theme, so now Emacs's icons (mostly imported from GNOME) are no longer consistent with the rest of the system. Perhaps we could re-import icons from the GNOME icon theme? The non-symbolic ones, of course.