From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrew Cohen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63497: [PATCH] Remove obsolete information on archiving mail from Gnus manual Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 08:39:13 +0800 Message-ID: <871qjd6tou.fsf@ust.hk> References: <835y8px5ci.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38342"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 63497@debbugs.gnu.org, Jens Schmidt , Andrew G Cohen To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 19 02:40:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pzoAJ-0009nA-Ng for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 May 2023 02:40:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzoA8-0005D5-18; Thu, 18 May 2023 20:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzoA6-0005Ci-A3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 20:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzoA6-0006QB-0U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 20:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pzoA5-0004ej-Rk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 20:40:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andrew Cohen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 00:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63497 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 63497-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63497.168445677317852 (code B ref 63497); Fri, 19 May 2023 00:40:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63497) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2023 00:39:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54878 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pzo9c-0004dr-Mi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 20:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from andy.bu.edu ([128.197.41.152]:48078) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pzo9a-0004dc-SJ for 63497@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 20:39:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.176.211.165] (helo=clove) by andy.bu.edu with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pzo9T-0003yR-RB; Thu, 18 May 2023 20:39:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <835y8px5ci.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 May 2023 14:10:37 +0300") X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "andy.bu.edu", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: [...] >> The Gnus manual still references these external marks in section >> "Archiving Mails", I guess that reference just got overlooked. >> But without external marks, archiving mails in Gnus is rather > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:261964 Archived-At: [...] >> The Gnus manual still references these external marks in section >> "Archiving Mails", I guess that reference just got overlooked. >> But without external marks, archiving mails in Gnus is rather >> difficult (to my knowledge), at least for the nnml backend. So I >> decided to rather remove that section entirely. EZ> Andrew, should these parts be removed, indeed? Yes, I think it should be removed. As Jens says, the purpose of this section was to indicate that group marks are stored in the filesystem for these backends, so saving these marks doesn't require doing anything other than copying the files. But the marks are no longer stored in the filesystem, so the whole section is moot. (As an irrelevant aside, for some strange reason its under the "Browsing the Web" topic, which is why I have never looked at it) Best, Andy -- Andrew Cohen