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It offers >> alternative implementations for the set of primitive operations listed in >> (info "(elisp) Magic File Names") > > This makes me wonder we can simply add a "find" file handler that will > use find as necessary when GNU find executable is available. > >>> GNU find is faster simply because it is running on remote machine itself. >>> But AFAIU, if TRAMP could convert repetitive network request for each >>> directory into a single request, it would speed things up significantly. >> >> If you want something like this, you must add directory-files-recursively >> to that list of primitive operations. > > So, it is doable, and not difficult. Good to know. Technically it isn't difficult. But don't forget: - We support already ~80 primitive operations. - A new primitive operation must be handled by all Tramp backends, which could require up to 10 different implementations. - I'm the only Tramp maintainer, for decades. Best regards, Michael.