From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52384: [External] : bug#52384: 26.3; dired buffer navigation tweak Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:41:32 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86zgp68c8j.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <69e7c202-8ad6-46c7-800a-f54f0b314d61@provide.net> <86y24rlylf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10113"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Michael Perry , Stefan Kangas , Arthur Miller , "52384@debbugs.gnu.org" <52384@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 12 09:59:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mwKhY-0002VH-SX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 09:59:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55492 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwKhX-0000v1-EJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:59:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwKhK-0000sT-L4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:59:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwKhD-0003bX-6U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:59:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwKhD-0005LA-5d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:59:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 08:59:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52384 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52384-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52384.163929952320473 (code B ref 52384); Sun, 12 Dec 2021 08:59:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52384) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2021 08:58:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50645 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwKgs-0005K9-N8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:58:42 -0500 Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:54965) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwKgq-0005Ji-A9 for 52384@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:58:40 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0912C0002; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 08:58:31 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 11 Dec 2021 22:06:31 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:222191 Archived-At: >> > (The Dired+ versions of these commands wrap >> > around, if option `diredp-wrap-around-flag' >> > has its default value of `t'.) >> >> Yet another feature I had already implemented >> since Emacs 21.1 and sent to you for review in 2007. > > Interesting. Or is that tongue in cheek? > > I just searched all messages I've received from > you, including those in 2007, from mailing lists > and direct mails, and I don't find any such > suggestion or review request. Could you point > to it - I'm curious. I expect that if that were > the case I would most likely have added it to > Dired+ long before I did (which was not until > July 12, 2013). I don't remember exactly, but the closest is in the thread "TAB for non-editing modes" on emacs-devel with the discussion about using TAB in dired to move between directories. When TAB/S-TAB will go to the next/previous directory, then `<' and `>' will be free to use for going to the first/last file. >> But I don't use it too much because it's not >> so useful with --group-directories-first >> that really should be the default. > > I have that as default for my own use. But I > often change sort orders, especially for date. When you change sort orders, directories still remain at the top? So first are directories sorted by date, then below files sorted by date?