From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joel Reicher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 19:57:51 +1000 Message-ID: <86zgk1lgm8.fsf__24612.6267405756$1651399277$gmane$org@gmail.com> References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8upr4zf.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24974"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (windows-nt) Cc: 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, help-emacs-windows@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 01 12:01:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6O6-0006Jd-12 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 12:01:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39142 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6O4-0003jO-QH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:01:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6N0-0003jA-QC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37496) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6N0-0008Ni-Ez for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6N0-0002QF-DO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Joel Reicher Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 10:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13850 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 13850-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13850.16513991779240 (code B ref 13850); Sun, 01 May 2022 10:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2022 09:59:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6Mb-0002Ox-Ec for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 05:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f52.google.com ([209.85.216.52]:41681) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6LE-0002Mm-JM for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 05:58:13 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f52.google.com with SMTP id z5-20020a17090a468500b001d2bc2743c4so10709417pjf.0 for <13850@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 01 May 2022 02:58:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=VsJ+bx37EqyMGyv3fnAHTKb4Be4eEN82ynPywDPrs/A=; b=J/kxPs40xRUyoAM/gMRIyZ3EornkwkbTCOEPkqC2LKFjCVHrl0foqJBdwWM9ZhbdWy MiOO4Q9wACp88u5Gv4ppK0MenZSJXcM7U98ppXZpuDtp5VcPyPTd287O//s9Pu42nYjX jIRf7MFcvk1c22J4FNyCDwlAFuulHdJqP1pXzmEiDmYlFoHbPm8zGZhqU6zlmedKgNDd Guemq6hxtOCZddKqSV+8dTwXrwWNlJw30N8cBND+c4QdiE5CUJ7U0Ide5jexH8iuQoSU bndS8lWyxSt3aYFpAFFkZjbu7viIdzrMPjpih/BtpzbK5wGpJpjYNsjWTtkeevLlGfBz FTOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=VsJ+bx37EqyMGyv3fnAHTKb4Be4eEN82ynPywDPrs/A=; b=ExQEIqu78njjXds5uHOmUPCaJW/c0GOlRhucxGGg+IOxjkKvy1IGDs7knJL9ga5uE4 EuDUn3qeNliw83TyGwVwVGDuZnnOtSI66Yyn0QbmTuczHjkxPNAVV74lQgz2CWXfD++Y PpwSq0R6t2euwMcGUXyTvJ7WTT2FCGdULPAn8ABKrvxQRY0E5RaQGj140aQzX6KlBtuW m5N2dI0fiCT6lqv6/8f5R58ChWuhOnF4+NOl/q3AZoH/BJmF0FRi7QcMxmikmdiPbTFb Ym26vok8e8fsjHilRc2jvsfaTvyLjleg2K5Q1lBU8+NnUgj15m7R2YhsWbZjue0F0dPb 4EVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533+VaB2N2XX+MhJxvj3PjhmEsq83yP/MLOU6bz8iN7nESGmud5U RB+Oaf+teLYgwZVPvFE2nnM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzpq++hSz9qaagy7SyTXj6xDP96q5Wge5sHfqoFD7Yn54XN9+QEO7YRlzBtJbd8h3UGvPfvew== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:4a92:b0:1dc:52a9:6387 with SMTP id lp18-20020a17090b4a9200b001dc52a96387mr1308169pjb.41.1651399086499; Sun, 01 May 2022 02:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from LAPTOP-ACR66VVN (139-218-25-158.sta.wbroadband.net.au. [139.218.25.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q9-20020a654949000000b003c1d946af6csm2207901pgs.32.2022.05.01.02.57.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 01 May 2022 02:58:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87v8upr4zf.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 01 May 2022 11:12:36 +0200") X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 May 2022 05:59:36 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:231112 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> We already do: just invoke runemacs.exe rather than emacs.exe. >> >> As for forking a thread: it is a bit more complex than that. (We >> already start at least 2 threads at startup.) The 2 most important >> problems are (1) the same executable should be able to run in a text >> terminal session under -nw, and (2) we don't want the GUI session to >> have a console. runemacs.exe solves both. >> >> Any reasons not to close this bug? > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved > at the time.) > > "Use runemacs" seems like it's the correct answer here, so I'm closing > this bug report. It is the right answer, but I can't help thinking that there is an issue of ignorance amongst Window users. Does anyone know why the OP had this `wrong'? I think we need to keep an eye on Windows users usage patterns/habits; there may be an opportunity here, especially when it comes to the installer. Regards, - Joel