From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23010: 25.1.50; Isearch help key to indicate current search state/mode Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 20:30:19 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86zgjmd5g4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87wneqwwb4.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38372"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , "23010@debbugs.gnu.org" <23010@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 12 20:26:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1npDWQ-0009pP-RI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 20:26:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58842 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npDWP-0004mQ-UY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:26:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npCfT-0004aS-0l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 13:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npCfS-0006EL-Ia for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 13:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1npCfS-0005ip-Fw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 13:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 17:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23010 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 23010-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23010.165237669621953 (code B ref 23010); Thu, 12 May 2022 17:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2022 17:31:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42201 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1npCf1-0005i1-Mn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 13:31:35 -0400 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:49183) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1npCez-0005hl-Db for 23010@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 13:31:34 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 053CA60008; Thu, 12 May 2022 17:31:24 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 12 May 2022 16:34:06 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232090 Archived-At: >> > This request is for a help key, to show the current state/modes of >> > Isearch. The info shown should include all of the possible toggle >> > states, such as case folding, whitespace folding, regexp/literal, and >> > char folding, as well as indicate the various toggle keys for these. >> >> I think this sound like it could be vaguely helpful. I've added Juri >> to the CCs; perhaps he has some comments. >> >> I think the utility would be pretty marginal, though -- few users alter >> these things dynamically, but go with one single set of states most of >> the time. > > Why do you think few users do so? We've added more > and more such change-state (e.g. toggle) keys over > time. And we generally try to indicate the current > state (e.g. in the mode-line). > > If the state were more visible/available then maybe > more users would "alter these things dynamically"? So do you suggest something like what query-replace does where typing `?' displays help about replacements? Such a buffer could have a different name, e.g. " *Isearch status*" and display the values of all togglable options.