From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70622: [PATCH] New window parameter 'cursor-type' Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 12:39:15 +0300 Message-ID: <86zfsvz7wc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <864jbmuf39.fsf@gnu.org> <8634r5tsit.fsf@gnu.org> <86y18wsmqy.fsf@gnu.org> <86cyq8sfif.fsf@gnu.org> <0519d8d8-2a3d-411a-a5bb-b556e0fb86db@gmx.at> <868r0ws9u1.fsf@gnu.org> <867cgfqcbn.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzk377kx.fsf@gnu.org> <86v83n5iry.fsf@gnu.org> <283e9319-8863-44e7-be72-995b8b36c37e@gmx.at> <86cypt4p1m.fsf@gnu.org> <8fe2af31-1509-45e7-9f0d-8f1e5b952353@gmx.at> <86o79c3fx5.fsf@gnu.org> <7a5087d8-b27a-42b4-9e1d-908f8a13731f@gmx.at> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: me@eshelyaron.com, 70622@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 12 11:40:40 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s65h9-0004Fs-Nw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:40:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s65gs-0005Au-08; Sun, 12 May 2024 05:40:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s65gY-00056t-Gv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 05:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s65gY-0000Pl-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 05:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s65gX-0008Ur-NM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 05:40:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 09:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70622 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 70622-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70622.171550676732641 (code B ref 70622); Sun, 12 May 2024 09:40:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70622) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2024 09:39:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53500 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s65fy-0008UP-M1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 05:39:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35870) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s65fw-0008UJ-6o for 70622@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 05:39:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s65fq-0000Lf-L6; Sun, 12 May 2024 05:39:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=STifgcUHFdq0IAy2m80iMv0CPLe1B8WaERJ9BJY6sew=; b=fRXF7pQxoytL dcGK+o+0jWXdA/jmP61tFMQzNOJFGht+FUcO/0b5A0BRUubGIh77iypw0qCvMHf2LeI7TSJAdcMvI P9dDk0jw1CzVN4gDtMJqzjwUqqCID3Xx2IsLkCNbvCLTzPrxfqEk35+ndgDtlrUmArIHCc9MNH8Ac cR/a/c0PgzfYcRDHdN4HTHyFJkzr7DiyDDSNjAIdr6BpyZKyConFUvPqlWnNNuHrgUECXiAlLlEiD R03Zesefc/reguB6ftsdkN7aUuio1CEk5/Pehh0RQak6A9i+iRnsSJRXqUCYwEBIjuKvMGJX/E2Oq L1UE7axRRvDEvg9zlNZN6A==; In-Reply-To: <7a5087d8-b27a-42b4-9e1d-908f8a13731f@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sun, 12 May 2024 10:29:24 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:284910 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 10:29:24 +0200 > Cc: me@eshelyaron.com, 70622@debbugs.gnu.org > From: martin rudalics > > > The ANYTHING ELSE clause is simply defensive programming, something we > > do in many other places. It can easily hide mistakes, and I see no > > reason not to help users find those mistakes. > > I'm not a fan of strong typing but I agree with you. The problem I see > is that we don't care about catching mistakes when setting the variable > or the corresponding frame parameter. If we want to help users finding > mistakes, we should care everywhere in a consistent fashion. > > > But if you are still unconvinced, I won't argue, although I still > > don't understand your and Eshel's objections. > > I only stated my personal view and will leave it to Eshel and you how > serve users best. Thanks. Let's see what Eshel takes from this.