From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 72405@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: bug#72405: 29.4; Doc string of `org-indent-mode'
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 09:18:11 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86zfpwwyu4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734noiy1b.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Thu, 01 Aug 2024 11:29:12 +0530)
> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
> Cc: 72405@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 11:29:12 +0530
>
> [வியாழன் ஆகஸ்ட் 01, 2024] Visuwesh wrote:
>
> > [வியாழன் ஆகஸ்ட் 01, 2024] Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >
> >>> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 20:23:59 +0000
> >>> From: Drew Adams via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> >>> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> >>>
> >>> Likely applies also to other minor-mode doc strings.
> >>>
> >>> emacs -Q
> >>> C-h f org-indent-mode
> >>> ____
> >>>
> >>> That shows you doc that includes this, where `org-indent-mode' is a link
> >>> intended to give you information about the _variable_ of that name:
> >>>
> >>> To check whether the minor mode is enabled in the current buffer,
> >>> evaluate 'org-indent-mode'.
> >>>
> >>> Clicking that link doesn't take you to the _variable_ part of the *Help*
> >>> buffer; it just puts you back at the start of the buffer (after
> >>> redrawing it uselessly).
> >>>
> >>> It should take you to the description of the variable. And the sentence
> >>> should include the word "variable" before `org-indent-mode'; otherwise,
> >>> it makes little sense to speak of evaluating that symbol, and the text
> >>> can confuse or mislead users.
> >>
> >> Thanks, but please report Org issues to the Org mailing list first.
> >> If the Org developers determine it's a core Emacs problem (which is
> >> hardly possible in this case, but who knows?), then it should be
> >> reported here.
> >
> > That sentence is part of easy-mmode--arg-docstring that gets added to
> > all the minor-mode docstrings. So it is not org-mode specific. For
> > example, font-lock-mode also has the following text:
> >
> > To check whether the minor mode is enabled in the current buffer,
> > evaluate ‘font-lock-mode’.
>
> Here's a patch to make it insert "the variable " after evaluate. But
> I'm not sure if (symbolp getter) will catch all non-variable cases.
> AFAIU, GETTER can be any generalised variable.
>
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
> index ba0f8bad393..2262fb8ed5b 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el
> @@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ easy-mmode--arg-docstring
> Disable the mode if ARG is a negative number.
>
> To check whether the minor mode is enabled in the current buffer,
> -evaluate `%s'.
> +evaluate %s`%s'.
>
> The mode's hook is called both when the mode is enabled and when
> it is disabled.")
> @@ -128,6 +128,7 @@ easy-mmode--mode-docstring
> easy-mmode--arg-docstring
> (if global "global " "")
> mode-pretty-name
> + (if (symbolp getter) "the variable " "")
> ;; Avoid having quotes turn into pretty quotes.
> (string-replace "'" "\\='" (format "%S" getter)))))
> (let ((start (point)))
Stefan, any comments to this suggestion?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-01 6:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-31 20:23 bug#72405: 29.4; Doc string of `org-indent-mode' Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-01 5:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01 5:40 ` Visuwesh
2024-08-01 5:59 ` Visuwesh
2024-08-01 6:18 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-08-14 0:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-14 2:39 ` Visuwesh
2024-08-14 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 6:38 ` Visuwesh
2024-08-14 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 7:27 ` Visuwesh
2024-08-14 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-14 8:04 ` Visuwesh
2024-08-15 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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