From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51883: 29.0.50; Command to get accidentally deleted frames back Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 11:11:17 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86y236vlfm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87czn1gfb1.fsf@web.de> <838rxo0zk7.fsf@gnu.org> <86lez73auf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36901"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Gregory Heytings , 51883@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 23 10:44:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBZPt-0009Uv-1F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 10:44:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55688 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBZPr-00043e-UW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 04:44:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBZPm-00043N-7r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 04:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45650) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nBZPl-0004rM-U9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 04:44:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBZPl-00034D-Sw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 04:44:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 09:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51883 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 51883-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51883.164293103711770 (code B ref 51883); Sun, 23 Jan 2022 09:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51883) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2022 09:43:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38553 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBZPh-00033m-3J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 04:43:57 -0500 Original-Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:52957) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBZPc-00033H-5C for 51883@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 04:43:53 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D57E4240004; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 09:43:43 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:26:02 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224891 Archived-At: >>> IIUC framesets are designed to be serializable so they shouldn't hold on >>> to external data like buffers and windows, so such 16 elements should >>> cost very little in terms of heap use. >> OTOH, since framesets are designed to be serializable, isn't it >> overkill to use framesets in the same session? > > Not sure what you mean by "overkill". AFAIK it makes them more lightweight. Without framesets it doesn't require loading frameset.el. >> For example, `clone-frame` doesn't use framesets, and the effect of >> `clone-frame` should be the same as what `undelete-frame` does. > > Except it actually creates a frame, so it requires a lot more resources. I don't understand: `clone-frame` creates a new frame with `make-frame`, and `undelete-frame` creates a new frame with `make-frame-on-display`.