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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 69056@debbugs.gnu.org, me@eshelyaron.com
Subject: bug#69056: 30.0.50; history-add-new-input and recursive minibuffers
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:08:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86y1bkvqbf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr0hd7blx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:54:07 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: me@eshelyaron.com,  69056@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:54:07 -0500
> 
> > for very little gain.  The more general issue with let-binding
> > variables around APIs that enter the minibuffer stays, so I see little
> 
> I agree that it would be good to tackle this more general problem.
> 
> Basically, should we treat recursive-edits as if they were run in a sort
> of separate thread (with the original thread blocked until the new
> thread exits)?

I don't think we can do that by default.  We need some evidence that
this is the intent.

> I think we can't do that in general, since I think we sometimes do want
> let-bindings performed around `read-from-minibuffer` to affect the
> command executed inside the minibuffer.

Exactly.  And doing so is a very wide-spread paradigm in Emacs.  Which
is one reason why enable-recursive-minibuffers is not turned on by
default, and should be considered an advanced feature for users who
"know what they are doing" and are ready to sustain the consequences.

> But we should maybe experiment with it to get a clearer idea of
> where we do want/need it and where we don't.

Perhaps.  But I'd like to hear concrete ideas for such experiments
before I have an opinion on their value.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-16  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-11 15:54 bug#69056: 30.0.50; history-add-new-input and recursive minibuffers Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-11 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 17:42   ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-11 17:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-15  8:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-15 15:24 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-15 16:17   ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-15 17:56     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-15 18:40       ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-15 19:20         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-15 19:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-15 19:54             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-16  7:08               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-02-15 19:27       ` Eli Zaretskii

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