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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Steven Allen <steven@stebalien.com>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 72323@debbugs.gnu.org, storm@cua.dk
Subject: bug#72323: 31.0.50; line-move unconditionally resets vscroll to 0
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 21:21:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86wmkdy9mx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ccd3f56.fsf@stebalien.com> (message from Steven Allen on Sun,  18 Aug 2024 10:38:29 -0700)

> From: Steven Allen <steven@stebalien.com>
> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 72323@debbugs.gnu.org, storm@cua.dk
> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 10:38:29 -0700
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Once again: the vscroll value is pertinent only for the screen line
> > for which it was computed, because the way it is computed uses the
> > metrics of that line.  Once you move to another line, the value is no
> > longer pertinent.
> 
> Let's be precise about "move to another line":
> 
> - When window-start changes, vscroll becomes invalid because the lines at
>   the top of the screen (to which vscroll applies) has changed. I agree
>   that it must be reset in this case.
> - When point is moved up and down in such a way that window-start isn't
>   changed, vscroll is still perfectly valid as the top line in the
>   window hasn't changed.

I disagree.  When point moves to another screen line without moving
window-start, vscroll may or may not be valid.  Whether it is depends
on the details of what is on display.

>  vscroll is relative to the top line, not point.

No, vscroll is global for the entire window.  It affects the Y
coordinate of every screen line, not just that of the first screen
line.

> > Emacs supports smooth scrolling only within a single screen line, and
> > that uses vscroll.  That's the original design intent of vscroll.
> > Smooth scrolling between lines is not really supported.
> > pixel-scrolling attempts to solve that, and does it well, but it does
> > have some problematic corners.  Those corners need to be solved inside
> > pixel-scroll code.
> 
> Honestly, scrolling between lines is working perfectly.

It's a kludge that is very fragile, and sometimes breaks.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-18 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-27 17:57 bug#72323: 31.0.50; line-move unconditionally resets vscroll to 0 Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-27 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 20:10   ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-28  4:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-28 20:07       ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-28 20:10         ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-29 11:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-29 11:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-29 14:30           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-18 17:42             ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-18 17:38           ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-18 18:21             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-08-18 18:40               ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-18 19:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-18 22:17                   ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-19 11:06                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 17:30                       ` Steven Allen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-30  0:51                         ` Stefan Kangas

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