From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastien Vauban Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21140: 25.0.50; Isearch "char-fold" by default Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:45:44 +0200 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <86vbd5n27r.fsf@example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438004889 9822 80.91.229.3 (27 Jul 2015 13:48:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:48:09 +0000 (UTC) To: 21140-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Mon Jul 27 15:47:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJikw-0007Q5-Bd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:47:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53577 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJikv-0002VR-FN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33869) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJikE-0001Lh-I2 for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJikA-00034h-Gl for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58314) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJikA-00034V-Dm for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJikA-00050n-1W for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-From: Sebastien Vauban Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21140 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Received: via spool by submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org id=B.143800477219191 (code B ref -1); Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2015 13:46:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59760 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJijM-0004zT-9J for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:46:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48401) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJijJ-0004zJ-LS for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJijE-0002pW-LX for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJijE-0002pR-JM for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:46:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33651) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJijD-0000W2-Ob for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:46:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJij3-0002np-Vo for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:46:03 -0400 Original-Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:10191 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJij3-0002nT-Hj for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:45:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mundaneum (unknown [10.10.10.51]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98161500074 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:45:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105155 Archived-At: Using Isearch under Emacs 25.0 really puzzles me. First, the default behavior seems changed, and I'm not really aware (yet) of what exactly "char folding" is. I did not found any definition for this, even if I have some ideas. Second, I don't think the new default is right. I prefer to search for text, not for regexps by default. Otherwise, we could also invert `C-s' and `C-M-s', right? Finally, it *seems* buggy to me when using `C-w' to complete the search pattern (or shouldn't we use that anymore?). Try it with the following example: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; some function (turn-on-orgstruct++) ;; other function (anzu--turn-on) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- As you can see on http://www.screencast.com/t/wx7r9UYK: - Completing "turn" with `C-w' will go over the 2 last "+" signs as if they did not exist. In Emacs 24, each "+" char was added one by one. - Completing "anzu" with `C-w' will simplify the 2 "-" signs as being just 1, making the search find no string at the end! - Completing "zu" with `C-w' will add "zu" to the pattern, multiple times... Isearch becomes quite complex to use IMHO. PS- BTW, Anzu seems completely lost in Org files, when now run from Emacs 25. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban